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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by thinbeige »

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

> but the UX is still lacking a lot

I disagree. I moved from a MBP to a notebook with Arch and i3. The UX of a tiling window manager such as i3 is in my opinion much better and more efficient than the floating wm on OSX. There is no real tiling wm for OSX (don't mention divvy here, it's a nice tool but far away from a real tiling wm).

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by ovao »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #558
ovao wrote: post #501

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They are provided in WSL, but the Windows Subsystem for Linux is a separate install atop Windows, and the installation process is currently very complex and lengthy.

Windows key, type "developer mode", hit enter, click "developer mode" (or 3x tabs, space, enter). PowerShell, send "lxrun /install /y" Done. Pro-tip. Pin PowerShell to your taskbar and drag all the way left. Now you can open it with win+1. Edit: now with no mouse required!

You've missed a step. After enabling Developer Mode, you need to enable support for WSL in Programs and Features, then restart Windows.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by Corrado »

issa wrote: post #318
Eun wrote: post #222

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Window management in OSX is horrible. Finder is even more horrible. It reminds me of the Windows 95 Explorer. A network drive hangs? Good luck with Finder..., the whole system halts.

My number one complaint about OSX is also window management. I've never found anything comparable to the way Windows 7 let you use the left/right arrows to line up windows on half the screen. That is the only thing I miss about Windows, but it's a pretty big one. Also, when dis/connecting monitors on OSX, windows often get lost. ps- if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations, I'd love to hear them!

Divvy is my go-to window manager on macOS. I've got it set up to arrange windows on each edge as well as a "communication" window in the upper left corner of the screen for Slack, etc...

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by rleigh »

valuearb wrote: post #580
dr_ick wrote: post #425

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People buy those Apple monitors because they are guaranteed to work to with Apple computers. At least that is the reasoning. They can complain to their local Apple Store to make it work. Most end users have no clue, and they don't enjoy researching, so they don't know they could get something better for less money.

Most users don't realize how good Apple monitors are, and how much better they make your work day. I just don't understand scrimping on something you will spend all day staring at. Getting something "almost as good" for half the price is a terrible deal.

Most of my workmates have them. They look like glossy mirrors, and several complain about it. When you can see your reflection in them, plus all the room lighting, that's a terrible quality for a general purpose display. Meanwhile I have a much cheaper matt Dell monitor which is much more fit for purpose, and I don't suffer from the glare and reflections.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by EpicEng »

nottorp wrote: post #319
m_mueller wrote: post #290

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Specifically: * HiDPI support in all apps, whethere they are aware of it or not. * Built-in PDF editing and creation from all printable content. * POSIX scripting and CLI. * Very clean and consistent configuration system (defaults). Reset an app to factory? Delete one plist file and potentially an app support folder. Got a new Mac? You could even boot it up from the old harddisk. Good luck doing that with windows reg…

* Touchpad support. I think most people who haven't used an Apple laptop extensively are not aware that the touchpad actually works, and you do not need to carry an external mouse to use the device comfortably.

The touchpad is literally the single hurdle to me going back to a windows/linux laptop.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by twblalock »

This may be too little, too late.

As the article points out, Apple felt the need to make this announcement even though the new Mac Pro won't be released until next year, because they don't want more pro users to abandon the platform.

That's a pretty sorry state of affairs. I don't know if there are good statistics about this, but I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few users have already abandoned Macs for Windows. Microsoft is making a big push to attract creative professionals, who are heavy Mac users as far as I know.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by touart »

Eun wrote: post #222
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

Window management in OSX is horrible. Finder is even more horrible. It reminds me of the Windows 95 Explorer. A network drive hangs? Good luck with Finder..., the whole system halts.

I use ShiftIt (https://github.com/fikovnik/ShiftIt) for this.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by JetSetWilly »

nemothekid wrote: post #625
willtim wrote: post #618

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Free software offers a spectrum of quality and innovation; and you've picked the worst of it. I use a desktop (i3), package manager (nix), editor (Emacs), programming language (GHC Haskell), file system (ZFS), bidirectional sync (unison) and security​ (gnupg) that are collectively far more innovative, powerful and stable than anything Apple have ever produced. Of course, if you are specifically looking for consumer t…

>Of course, if you are specifically looking for consumer tech, ease of use and support, then open source probably isn't for you. If you can look past your smugness a bit, why? Why is it that if I want "ease of use", open source isn't for me? Do you not see the problem here? I can't see how you can argue your favorite projects are more "innovative & stable than anything Apple have ever produced", but in the same breat…

> Why is it that if I want "ease of use", open source isn't for me? Do you not see the problem here?

Why is that a problem? You're not entitled to anything, easy to use or otherwise.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by ianai »

This is why monopolistic companies suck. It literally does not matter what Apple does. They're the only vendor of MacOS and Mac hardware. So what if you hate their ancient Mac Pro line? If you're tied to their ecosystem you have to pay up. And because you pay up they can claim their way "won". But your original demand for a good is still unmet. You've just found a way to settle for what the monopolist will grant you. That should really piss people off.

/caffeinated rant

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