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I wonder what his thoughts are about Trump nonconsensually groping women? A libertarian could not support such violence/coercion. [Edit: wow, off-topic?]

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12718512 and marked it off-topic.

Typical mod treatment.

Can't even put up an argument.

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I could think of at least four possible reasons to doubt their accusations. Some of which wouldn't sit well with people. 1. The accusers are being blackmailed into doing it. 2. Or they are being bribed by people wanting to influence the election. 3. Or they want to be famous. 4. Or they have a personal vendetta against Donald Trump. There is a reason we have courts, trials and burdens of proof. And the convenient tim…

Can you prove they are being blackmailed, bribed, want to be famous (several already are, of course, for their own careers and lives), or have a personal vendetta? I mean, on the one hand, you have a lot of women who tell the same sort of story, and I trust people until I have an actual (not hypothetical) reason to assume they're lying. On the other hand, you have the guy who brags about dishonest business practices…

There is also the blatant fact that allegations being made are exactly the behavior he voluntarily described himself engaging in.

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Adams faces social consequences because of his bizarre and paranoid rantings, such as that Hillary supporters will literally assassinate him if he supports Trump [1]. http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145456082991/my-endorsement-for...

He said in an BBC interview that the FBI contacted him that some of the death threats he received were credible. Maybe it's true, maybe not. But I can see how in the current situation it can be dangerous to you to endorse Trump. There's just too much hatred, especially after Trump is constantly compared to Hitler. (which can give people a justification to kill him or his supporters)

Meanwhile, Adams doesn't believe that women on Twitter don't get threatened with rape and violence, and Trump motivates his supporters to coordinate and commit terror attacks on Muslim-looking Americans, e.g., http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/15/us/hate-crime-charges-in-a...

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Just like the US this year. This is not an exaggeration. Many people would have professional and personal consequences for supporting Trump in public. People like Peter Thiel and Scott Adams have enough money to not care. Scott isn't even endorsing him and he says that his speaking engagements have dried up. We may see a big difference between the polling and the election results this year. The Shy Tory Effect came t…

Yeah, I had pretty major family problems for saying that I thought he was a lot of hot air and not actually that dangerous--with a disclaimer that I would never vote for him. Although my perspective on him has changed, it seems to me that the American left has turned into the authoritarian controlling power they so often claim to fight against.

In your view, individual people exercising their personal social power is authoritatian?

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Scott Adams in his own words: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150919416661/why-i-switched-my-...

Is he kidding? I can't tell if I'm reading satire there, but I don't follow his blog. Edit: I'm flipping through his blog and the extent to which politics, for him, is about the meta stuff is honestly kind of surreal

He has said himself -- he says whatever pops into his head, and he's "clearly joking" about anything that is offensive or ridiculous.

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So he does not know the system but you know it well enough to know that his plan will add trillions to the debt?

Trump's so called economic plan has been trashed by reputable economists and publications. Its easy to see why - he advocates for low taxes and high spending simultaneously. I've read some of the other comments you've posted here, and noticed how impervious to logic you seem to be but surely you can see how low taxes and high spending is a combination that never mixes well. Never mind the Econ 101 level mistakes made…

Also http://gregmankiw.blogspot.ca/2016/09/trumponomics.html by Mankiw, a former chair of CEA under Bush.

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When I've posted criticism of Hillary on Facebook, I've gotten savaged in the comments by my liberal friends. It's a sobering and depressing experience and I'm sad to realize that my respect for most of them has declined, as no doubt theirs has for me. Periodically I will post a defense of freedom of speech, and I'll remind people that I'm willing to fight and die for their right to disagree with me, with which they…

You posted something your friends disagreed with, they posted something you disagreed with in response. That's what freedom of speech is about, unless they're posting about how you should be jailed for criticizing Hillary. Freedom of speech isn't freedom from people changing their opinion about you based on what you say.

Unfortunately, in the modern Alt-right view, "freedom of speech" means "freedom of everyone agreeing with me and not talking back"

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Well yes, but with Trump you get Eric Cartman come to life: all the problems of Clinton, plus vulgarity, plus neo-Nazism.

Some would claim you already have that.

Some would claim that Obama is a neo-Nazi? I admit, that's a new one. Haven't heard that before.

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In a way, because this election has come down to a dichotomy between Hilary and an actual cartoon villain, it'll be bad for the democratic party. It'll ensure the entrenchment of the conservative "think of the children" "just say no" wing of the party for another decade or more.

Obviously you don't know enough people who support Trump (or McMullin, or Johnson) in your facebook feed, because the charicatures they post about Clinton are of a cartoonish evil villain as well, often with their favorite picture: https://goo.gl/images/LvYxB1 Clinton isn't my first pick, but I realized long ago that quite a bit of the hate about her goes back to her feminism and activism in her early days in the whi…

Well, the right wing stopped hating her for not baking cookies when she baked cookies. Then they started hating her for baking cookies.

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Peter Thiel is a YCombinator partner, yet YC has steadfastly refused to disavow him. In a Twitter exchange with David Heinemeier Hansson, Paul Graham suggested that to do so would somehow be the equivalent of firing an employee for having a distateful political opinion. YC's silence on a partner's outspoken support of Trump is disgraceful, and sends the most shameful message about our industry.

I have to admit as much as I dislike Trump pg raises a valid point. Another analogy would be YC disavowing Thiel for being gay. An employer has no business in their employees sexual lives or politic preferences.

Disavowing Thiel for being gay would be the opposite of what I am asking for.

"Supporting bigotry" and "gay" are not interchangeable moral categories.

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