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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by stock_toaster »

johnward wrote: post #417
acomjean wrote: post #42

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I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

The camera bulge bothers me on every phone. The lens always ends up wearing after some daily use. Why would you want that to be the contact point on any device?

If you use just about any kind of case, the bulge disappears and becomes flush again.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by kelseydh »

heartbreak wrote: post #318
tptacek wrote: post #233

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that cameras are nice and so are Retina displays but what we'd really like to see is a big splashy page about whatever's new with the Secure Enclave Processor in the 7. Not because there's anything wrong with the 6! Ivan Krstic's talk about Apple platform security at Black Hat was probably the best talk of the whole event. Nobody is delivering seamlessly integrated chips…

I'm also really excited about this. A lot of people have been distracted by a single issue and are missing some really nice features of this phone. Beyond the secure enclave, if the haptic home button is anything like the new trackpads, it'll be an amazing feature. One less moving part to break. And the cameras...wow. Finally decent depth of field on the camera that's always in my pocket.

Verge is giving the haptic buttons a big thumbs down:

"Another thing I tried: the new home button, which uses a "taptic engine" to give you physical feedback when you press it — it's pressure sensitive too, so it can tell if you really mean to press it or just tap it. And it's awful. On a MacBook trackpad, you get this uncanny feeling that you're actually hitting a button. On the iPhone, the whole bottom of the phone just sort of "kicks." It's not bad haptics like you remember, with weird vibration, it's just a new kind of bad haptics. It doesn't feel like a button at all. It's a bummer."

http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/7/12827772/iphone-7-plus-phot...

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #550
DCKing wrote: post #396

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To be fair to Apple, I think they have a good point. Digital connectors are superior in almost every way (space use, port flexibility, sound quality, even cable integrity). I admire them for ripping off the bandaid, like they did previously with disk drives and parrallel ports. Someone needs to lead the way to abandon legacy, and Apple can do that far more effectively than others (e.g. Motorola has also abandoned hea…

I completely agree. If they're going to get on their high horse about being brave they should have done this with USB-C. Now their phones will either never go USB-C or it will take 5 years before they do it otherwise all of those lightning headphones you just bought are now useless.

Or they'll do it next year and have a USB-C to lightning adapter that you plug your lightning to 3.5mm adapter into.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by codyb »

vadym909 wrote: post #612
acomjean wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

Making the phone thin is a wasted goal. Everyone I know has a thick iphone cover.

Which would be even thicker on a thicker phone.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by kelseydh »

spike021 wrote: post #500
tdy721 wrote: post #215

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I never use a case for my phones. Honestly, I kinda like the way phones "wear down". It's mine, and I scratched it up a bit, no problem.

Agreed. The case for having a case is when you want to keep resale value as high as possible, but even now that's not such an issue if you do the upgrade program where you automatically get a new phone every year and basically lease it.

In my opinion a case is necessary just so I can have access to a second battery. The iPhone 6s is unusable with only one charge.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by mahyarm »

chetanahuja wrote: post #613
acomjean wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

"If only iOS devices were made by other manufacturers" This seems backwards. Only reason to buy Apple phones is the superior hardware. As far as the OS goes, Android (and the google services backing it... especially Google Now) have completely surpassed it and continue to increase the gap every day. Increasingly, Google is treating the mobile devices as just a conduit to access their cloud services (including their f…

I had an android phone a year ago. Battery life management is pretty horrible. It's really hard to figure out which apps are draining your battery a lot in the background.

For example, I rooted my phone to find out if any wake locks were draining my battery. It didn't show anything. Looked at the battery usage screen, it didn't show the culprit. Eventually I had to do a science experiment on my phone and disable all background processing and then switch on apps one by one to see the battery life change.

I finally found it was my carrier's generic usage app that was killing my battery. The app was installed from the app store on my unlocked device, so it wasn't carrier pre-installed crapware that caused this.

On iOS, I've never had to do this because app developers are not able to drain your battery like that.

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Camera software speed and quality has never been matched for me on iOS. Maybe motorola gets to iOS's camera speed. The software also makes getting good photos a lot easier with things like detecting your hand shake with the accelerometer and taking the photo when you're still in the moment.

Siri has better locked screen and in car voice interaction for me compared to android when I tried with android OS 5

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If google disappeared, you would basically get china and other companies would fill in the gap.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by phatbyte »

rajacombinator wrote: post #166
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

Apple headphones are super poor quality as well. I can get some Chinese ones off Amazon for $10 that absolutely destroy the Apple ones.

Please let us know where we can buy it?

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by Havoc »

overcast wrote: post #267

I especially enjoyed the last second comment under his breath regarding the matte black iPhone 7 pricing. 32GB standard for all models, except the matte black, which will ONLY come in 128GB, and you'll be paying $100 more at $750. Nice underhanded move by Apple to maximize profit for what will undoubtedly be the most popular color. First they force everyone to buy the 32GB upgrade last year on the 6S, now you're forc…

Don't think Jet Black will be the most popular. Think standard black will be.

Jet Black will be full of scratches by the time you've unboxed it.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by 7952 »

_qbjt wrote: post #498
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

You're not alone and I would expand this distinction to not only factor in popularity but functionality as well. CDs phasing out floppy disks may have been done in part for DRM purposes but the advantage was at least clear; 700MB is a hell of a lot more than 1.44MB. With the iPhone 7, Apple is taking away a time-tested feature in favor of alternatives which do not present clear advantages. Bluetooth headphones are an…

I would be interested to know how often those jacks fail and need warranty replacement. For whatever reason I seem to break them easily and have moved to Bluetooth to avoid this. The design puts the strain on the socket rather than the jack. There may well be a small minority who regularly need repairs because of this.
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