The worst part is it'll get better and better at doing it and smarter and smarter, this needs legal interference to manage abuse
AI is just unauthorised plagiarism at a bigger scale
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Can you map this more directly to claims made about AI? It's impossible to agree or disagree with you. You've just given us an analogy - but to what?
Not sure what you're missing here. The other comment replies don't seem to be missing it. See the article, etc.
What is the claim? A little plagiarism is OK therefore a lot is also OK?
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#623Seriously how is this surprising? We all know AI companies stole troves of data to train their models, why do you think they'll stop? Have they faced consequences for the mass theft of copyrighted data? You can't steal or profit off of that data, but it's fine for them for whatever reason. I guess because they're a force for good in the world and are pushing humanity forward eh?
That data is not stolen. It's still there.
I've had my writings directly plagiarized by other people--people who made word-for-word copies of my work, replaced my name with their own, and made a tidy profit on it. They profit more than I ever managed, because they have more resources. In the aftermath, my writings are still "there", not "stolen" in the physical world sense, but my ability to make a living is damaged, and the plagiarism is deeply unethical.
LLMs and "AI" are just one small step removed from straight-up plagiarism. They are massive moral injury[1] machines.
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Is there a difference?
Well yeah, if you're making the claim that it stores a representation of the data in some form. Does your calculator app store a representation of the answer to 1+2/2*1.1 and all other combinations of inputs or does it determine the answer from a set of rules?
It's a different case when the input contains more information than the output.
If you put "1+2/2 x 1.1" into a calculator and it spit out a verbatim copy of a New York Times article, does it necessarily contain a representation, or does it just contain some really extensive rules? I'd argue those rules necessarily are a representation of that information, given that it contains far more information than provided by the input.
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#627How much were people fined for downloading MP3's off Napster? And what should AI companies be fined for downloading the entire internet? Don't forget openAI has been caught several times training their models on copywritten material.
How many people took those MP3s and tried to create a company that would IPO for a trillion dollars?
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I am not quite sure why my address history, known aliases, and sometimes phone number, are publicly available to anyone who Googles my name, and I'm not sure how to opt out of this.
> I'm not sure how to opt out of this. If you’re a EU citizen, do a web search for “right to be forgotten”. https://support.google.com/legal/answer/10769224
Alas, I'm in the US.
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