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But these people would already have a company-provisioned laptop.
I don't want to maintain state on two laptops
With the right tooling, the state is minimal and gets synchronized between laptops.
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#622Hard for me to justify an Intel or even AMD chip now when not just Apple but even Qualcomm are trouncing them on single core performance. The Snapdragon X2 Elite performance cores are faster than any Intel or AMD core ever made, full stop.
Unfortunately Linux support isn't fully baked yet, but people are working on it.
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#623What I miss is a keyboard with dedicated keys for Home, End, Insert, Delete, PageUp, and PageDown. Sadly, this is still something only ThinkPads get right.
I really would like to give other laptops a chance but the substandard keyboards of most laptops are always holding me back.
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It's a matter of preferences. Actually I like trackpads that don't mind and have physical buttons. The separation between the surface that moves the pointer on screen and the surfaces that generate the clicks means that there are no misclicks and no involuntary pointer movements while clicking.
The MacBook software is so good that I’ve never had issues with misclicks or movement despite your palms sitting on it while typing. Long ago I installed Linux on a MacBook and found it unusable because of clicks and movement while typing. It’s probably improved these days though.
I had palm rejection work perfectly in my 2015 laptop; for my 2022 laptop, I had to switch to Fedora for the latest software.
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#625I'll take this opportunity to report on my Framework Laptop 13 experience. I've had it for over a year. The case is warped in multiple places. One USB C module doesn't accept a power charge reliably. It can overheat and shutdown. If the case flexes a little the trackpad stops responding - it needs to be on a flat surface. Power brick died. On the plus side, my partner had one and when she threw it away she gave me he…
How do you even warp these things? Had mine for 3y, sturdy as hell.
So sturdy in fact that the only piece I've had to replace is the charger, what's the point in swappable parts now right? /s
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#626Earlier quoted context omitted.
Among Linux users, long battery life is for in-office workers (who leave their desk to attend meetings) in hybrid companies (where no meetings are laptop-free) in roles that sometimes involve back-to-back meetings.
But these people would already have a company-provisioned laptop.
I thought the idea was the Framework is the company-provisioned one. Or are they letting people do corp work on personal laptops?
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#627This page is confusing and maybe even misleading. They write "Linux first". Few paragraphs later they write: 20 hours, Netflix 4K streaming, 250nit brightness, 30% volume, Windows 11. Why didn't they stream Neflix on Ubuntu they ship with? Overall it looks awesome. I just bought Thinkpad T14s upgrading from the same model of older generation, I wish Framework would expand its sales coverage, probably would buy it wit…
Netflix doesnt support 4k streaming on Linux.
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Tough sell, I can buy a Magic Trackpad and use it on any machine I want.
The /s should have been obvious. I wouldn't try selling MacBooks to anyone. It's the worst popular device in terms of ergonomics, paired with OS that is incredibly hostile to developers and power users
Don't worry, they don't need help selling it
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Macs have that too, just implemented well. In addition, CPUs with connected standby don’t have the normal sleep so even on linux they run in connected standby. Maybe its less buggy in your case? Consider yourself lucky, lots of people encounter problems with sleep on linux
> lots of people encounter problems with sleep on linux Yeah, because they buy a Windows laptop, slap Linux on it, and expect it to work. OSX sucks even more by this metric; it won't even install!
Well if you buy a Linux laptop and slap Windows on it, sleep will most likely work. Unfortunately Microsoft got preferential treatment.
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#630I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).
I preordered a 13 Pro with Ryzen, which I'm already very excited about. Reading between the lines of your video announcement, though, it seems like the Intel experience might be more optimal (you pointed out Intel's new low power efficiency cores and Dolby sound being tested with Intel). If I want the best battery life and sound possible with Linux, should I switch my preorder to Intel?
for the current moment, Intel seems to be ahead of AMD for both power efficiency and iGPU performance. Panther Lake is really, really good.