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Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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The evidence being…

It blows my mind that people still think Epstein is just a big conspiracy theory and nothing happened. Pam Bondi said Epstein's black book was on her desk ready to be released, and then a month later she said it didn't exist. She couldn't have been telling the truth both times. The camera in Epstein's jail cell "failed" for the exact two minutes he was (supposedly) killing himself before magically starting to work ag…

> The camera in Epstein's jail cell "failed" for the exact two minutes he was (supposedly) killing himself before magically starting to work again

Why are you lying about this? How does it benefit you?

It takes less than a minute to find this claim disproven in detail https://www.wired.com/story/the-fbis-jeffrey-epstein-prison-...

The idea that the cut happened when Epstein was supposedly killing himself is something you invented yourself, not something even remotely supported by evidence.

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Google this and take your pick: ai decisions health insurance Also, to be clear, I don't think violence is the way to confront the oligarch sociopaths. There is clearly enough momentum to fix a lot of the monopoly / anti-consumer issues over the next 4-8 years. Assuming Trumpty Dumpty doesn't try to put our military at polling places or some other anti-democracy putinesque bullshit like that.

That’s quite the assumption.

You clearly haven't been paying attention.

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People are okay with violence when democratic means (if first past the post even counts) do not solve their problems.

people are never OK with violence against human beings.

Are you kidding? Read the news. Many Americans are totally fine with dropping bombs on other countries (which, you know, kill human beings) if they feel that their cause is "just". They're also OK with violence against human beings in their own country if those people happen to not have the proper documentation, or they're protesting against violence.

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people are never OK with violence against human beings.

This has to be one of the most naive comments I've read on this site. Theres example after example of people in history being totally fine with violence against human beings.

For some reason people get really stupid when presented with something uncomfortable to them.

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It is a bit scary how people seem to genuinely be OK with violence (see this reddit thread [0]). Is just me or does it feel like the overall "temperature" has gone up. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1shugf8/firebomb_t...

I don’t think it’s surprising - some people already consider the actions of AI execs and tech companies to be synonymous to violence. Like, comparing something like this to destroying the livelihoods of millions of people, a lot of people would consider the latter far worse. Temperature is certainly going up, but it definitely hasn’t reached historic levels yet lol.

The Ministry of The Future (Kim Stanley Robinson) lays this scenario out clearly -- people will resort to violence to try to stop what they consider to be the destruction of their lives or society.

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It is scary. You know what’s also scary? Being told a robot is going to take your job and healthcare away. There’s a lot of scary shit going on.

I agree it is scary, but why would a robot take healthcare away? Wouldn't that be the contrary?

because in America, if they don't have a job (because a robot replaced them), they can't get healthcare

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It blows my mind that people still think Epstein is just a big conspiracy theory and nothing happened. Pam Bondi said Epstein's black book was on her desk ready to be released, and then a month later she said it didn't exist. She couldn't have been telling the truth both times. The camera in Epstein's jail cell "failed" for the exact two minutes he was (supposedly) killing himself before magically starting to work ag…

> The camera in Epstein's jail cell "failed" for the exact two minutes he was (supposedly) killing himself before magically starting to work again Why are you lying about this? How does it benefit you? It takes less than a minute to find this claim disproven in detail https://www.wired.com/story/the-fbis-jeffrey-epstein-prison-... The idea that the cut happened when Epstein was supposedly killing himself is something…

I'm confused what your core disagreement is? It seems like you're narrowing in on some relatively unimportant detail. Using your own source, what is the likely explanation for the tape shenanigans? Who cares if op was inaccurate to the exact specifics of the missing footage? Or am I not understanding the implication of the article you cited?

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It is a bit scary how people seem to genuinely be OK with violence (see this reddit thread [0]). Is just me or does it feel like the overall "temperature" has gone up. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1shugf8/firebomb_t...

I'm not saying throwing a MOlotov cocktail is ok. It's not. I think most people are analyzing the incident as being indicative of the times we're living in, particularly with the warehouse fire. But where people are "OK with violence" is with state violence . State violence include police violence (>1000 people are killed every year in the US by police), prison violence, violently rounding up immigrants and putting t…

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I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…

Purely American phenomenon, most of the world is pro ai

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I think more and more Americans have what C. Wright Mills called the "sociological imagination". We pour tons of effort into punishing visceral, direct violence like a stabbing or shooting. But if white collar crime is being committed that leads to the death of hundreds of thousands of people, it's rare that anyone sees jail time. Maybe you could argue the decisions of Brian Thompson made only account for maybe 10% o…

This is a long comment, but I swear it is going somewhere (new terminology). Someone once said (I think Kay), that "a change in notation is worth 20 IQ points". Historically, people struggled with presently-mundane basic concepts, such as Darwin's Evolutionary Theory, and Maupertuis' Principle of Least Action, because they lacked the "notation" (concepts, really), that would have allowed them to integrate them into t…

One of most important things I've learned as I have gotten older is that optimization is all about degree. Is it good that housing prices are higher? No, clearly not. Is it good that I can get a 30-year mortgage when I am 25 and live in a house and eventually pay it off? Yes, it is good (I just paid it off last year.) Does the existence of that 30-year mortgage inflate the housing market? It definitely does if there is not enough housing. And yes I gladly paid 2x the cost of the house in interest, because I got to live in it the entire time vs. paying rent on someone else's asset. Good public policy must have specific aims in mind or there are many unintended consequences.
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