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German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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This is only for citizen not refugees/immigrants so both MEA and NA folks can chill.

Why aren't refugees/immigrants conscripted over citizens?

Even if they are included, they wouldn't join up.

More British Muslims joined ISIS than the British military. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/19/magazine/her-majestys-jih...>

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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So while many of the reasons are questionable (understatement of the year), let’s focus on the last one. After America lost the war in Vietnam, what happened to those neighboring nations? Did they suffer from Vietnamese communists? The only Vietnamese intervention was in Cambodia, and hardly anyone thinks that wasn’t the right thing to do.

The OP said it was not for “defence.” I am arguing the reasons were for the defense of American interests. That is objectively true.

Invading other countries to take their resources and kill civilians is not defence.

With your logic, Russia is also acting in a defensive manner.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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post #550

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So what's your proposed solution? Not have a military and just roll over when someone decides to attack you?

My proposed solution is understanding what this scene means: In front of a blood-stained chessboard littered with mutilated chess pieces finely dine two royal couples - black and white - cheering their endgame.

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Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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In 2006, the Federal Administrative Court justified the absence of compulsory military service for women in a ruling, citing, among other reasons, that women face greater burdens in the domestic sphere than men and that this alone would justify their exemption from military service obligations. So military service is seen as a service like healthcare and care services where women already do most of the work, mostly p…

> unpaid Right, completely unpaid, which is why most women are homeless and starving on the street.

Right, completely unpaid, which is why most women who take care of family members don’t acquire any pension and social security benefits for that work. That’s why many of them don’t have the time for a full time paid job and either work part time or don’t have a job at all.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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How about we just don’t fight stupid wars? There hasn’t been a real need for a draft in America since the civil war (in the sense that America was not plausibly threatened by the world wars, Korea, Vietnam, etc).

Americans during WWII thought it was a fight for national survival, starting with the shock of Pearl Harbor. Isolationishm turned to intervention in the "Good War." I won't defend any war after that...

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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I would define feminism as the belief that on balance and in aggregate, there is a difference in the fairness that society accords to the genders and it's in favor of men. The risk to feminism would be that this becomes so blatantly and obviously not true that no one can take it seriously. I don't think the continued draft of men would impact this because it's not a change to the status quo, and it isn't changing opi…

> and it's in favor of men. Definitely going to have to disagree there.

You disagree with feminists, or you disagree that feminists essentially hold that viewpoint?

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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> and it's in favor of men. Definitely going to have to disagree there.

You disagree with feminists, or you disagree that feminists essentially hold that viewpoint?

The former.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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> unpaid Right, completely unpaid, which is why most women are homeless and starving on the street.

Right, completely unpaid, which is why most women who take care of family members don’t acquire any pension and social security benefits for that work. That’s why many of them don’t have the time for a full time paid job and either work part time or don’t have a job at all.

They have a job and they are paid for it. They also do have pensions and social security benefits: through their husbands. If the husband remains alive, they continue to be paid as they were before retirement. If he dies, they often inherent his pension and assets. It's a terrible system and we need to modernize it but you're still wrong on all of your points.
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