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US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Post by dmoy »

throwway120385 wrote: post #592
dmoy wrote: post #524

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I don't doubt that Trump would take guns away from people who don't support him. It's kinda right out of an authoritarian playbook. Not sure what that has to do with what I said though.

Kinda goes against gun rights as being part of his platform at all. At least with the "gun control" laws they still try to maintain some gun rights. Whereas the Republican playbook now is just "oh you shouldn't be allowed to carry unless I think you're a cool person." Like that guy that got shot in MSP. He had a concealed carry permit and he was disarmed. People in Trump's administration were still saying "he shouldn…

I don't think trump has gun rights as a big part of his platform. I guess they got rid of tax stamp fees but that doesn't really mean anything.

But again, that doesn't really have much to do with what I said?

However minimal Republican support of gun rights may be, they don't have increasing gun control as a major part of their platform like the Democrats do.

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Post by JohnnyMarcone »

keldonjohnson wrote: post #581
BeetleB wrote: post #571

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Except lots of vacation, travel, etc.

In big tech the benefits are the same, except you save more in 10 years in WA than people in London save in 30.

What about everyone else in society? What happens if your skill set is no longer in demand and you become one of "everyone else"?

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Post by hyperpape »

hungryhobbit wrote: post #617
hyperpape wrote: post #415

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Don't put words in my mouth, don't say silly things. I'm well aware the color your skin matters a lot, but your passport also matters, especially at the border. You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport and that's still better than brown skin and a third-world pass…

>You're better off with white skin and a US passport than with white skin and a British passport, but you're also better off with brown skin and a US passport than brown skin and a British passport and that's still better than brown skin and a third-world passport. Tell me you're not an American without telling me you're not an American. I hate to say it, but to many (racist) Americans, brown skin < anything else ...…

1. A few messages upthread, I note that I'm an American, and I'm from the South. Quite familiar with how racist folks can be.

2. Reread what I wrote, it's not contradicted by what you said.

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Post by blurbleblurble »

0xy wrote: post #599
ActorNightly wrote: post #580

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You realize your propaganda bullshit is very easy to spot, right? Spout off a bunch of random disconnected facts, in hope that nobody fact checks them, hoping that people forget that pedofile who tried to coup the government is our President right now.

>in hope that nobody fact checks them I'd love you to fact check them, but I'm a little puzzled why you didn't already. You appear to have just made unfounded claims about the accuracy of my claims with no counterpoints. Maybe you can fix that? On chicken prices, I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics. [1] On the fraudulent broadband scheme, I used Politico's coverage of the $42B fraud. [2] On the EV scheme, Reuters c…

You do realize that the Biden administration inherited historically low interest rates no?

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Post by ActorNightly »

0xy wrote: post #599
ActorNightly wrote: post #580

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You realize your propaganda bullshit is very easy to spot, right? Spout off a bunch of random disconnected facts, in hope that nobody fact checks them, hoping that people forget that pedofile who tried to coup the government is our President right now.

>in hope that nobody fact checks them I'd love you to fact check them, but I'm a little puzzled why you didn't already. You appear to have just made unfounded claims about the accuracy of my claims with no counterpoints. Maybe you can fix that? On chicken prices, I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics. [1] On the fraudulent broadband scheme, I used Politico's coverage of the $42B fraud. [2] On the EV scheme, Reuters c…

Nice, all very biased sources and fake news.

Good job being literally the epitome of what conservatives claim liberals to be. Every accusation is a confession.

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Post by 0xy »

ActorNightly wrote: post #625
0xy wrote: post #599

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>in hope that nobody fact checks them I'd love you to fact check them, but I'm a little puzzled why you didn't already. You appear to have just made unfounded claims about the accuracy of my claims with no counterpoints. Maybe you can fix that? On chicken prices, I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics. [1] On the fraudulent broadband scheme, I used Politico's coverage of the $42B fraud. [2] On the EV scheme, Reuters c…

Nice, all very biased sources and fake news. Good job being literally the epitome of what conservatives claim liberals to be. Every accusation is a confession.

Reuters and Politico are biased? The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which the Biden admin operated at the time, is 'biased' against him??????

Still waiting for that rebuttal.

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Post by Fricken »

bodiekane wrote: post #548
cucumber3732842 wrote: post #510

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>Healthcare was carrying the economy. Any commentary on why that’s failing? The fact that it's such big part of the economy is a really bad thing because it's "overhead" or "broken windows" for the most part. And it's falling because people are stretched thin so they're not going to the engaging healthcare unless they truly NEED it. Even if you have "great" insurance contacting that system still costs you money if no…

I don't think the "broken windows" metaphor is very accurate for healthcare. A lot of healthcare spending is along a gradient of elective vs necessary and some continuum of quality of life improvements. For instance, I could live with allergies, and all my ancestors just had to, but I have the option to spend money on allergy testing services, medicines, treatments, etc. People spend money on in-home professional car…

Having a 70 year old play tennis is much more expensive than letting him die off and instead have an up and coming 17 year old play tennis. 17 year olds stay healthy and young, and are able to have meaningful life experiences at no extra cost.

Humans weren't designed to last forever, and it's inefficient to push against that constraint, you run into fast diminishing returns, and it leads to maladies and stratification when done at a societal scale. It doesn't matter how much we spend on health care, we're not going to live forever.

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Post by orwin »

joe_mamba wrote: post #607
orwin wrote: post #175

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> How much of that 3% is from foreign tourists versus domestic Americans? Probably all of it since tourism was 11% of total GDP in 2023, a third of that being international tourism would be on par with european averages.

Where did you get 11% GDP from. Google says 3%.

nvm i'm dumb, i can't read a chart: https://www.statista.com/statistics/292518/contribution-of-t...

2023: 2.36T (i misread and took 2024 prediction)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188105/annual-gdp-of-the...

2023: 27.7

2.36 / 27.7 * 100 ~ 8.5

so 8.5 percent, not 11

I don't have a paid access to the website since 2021, so i can't look at the primary/secondary data, but it never failed me, and doesn't have the bias more political economic institutes has, so i mostly take data from there. If you have different data i will take them.

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Post by anigbrowl »

testfrequency wrote: post #4

I do not see the tourism industry mentioned here but I have to imagine that is a huge loss right now. Most of the world is not visiting the US right now which means projects and planning that was made in anticipation for summer has probably been halted or heavily reduced.

True, but that loss has been in for a while. Tourism began hemorrhaging a year ago from a combination of tariffs and ICE policy and Trump's bizarre obsession with Greenland (and associated alienation of former allies).

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Post by overfeed »

conductr wrote: post #323
sbarre wrote: post #274

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I am also a Canadian who has decided not to visit the US until further notice, and honestly, I'm sad about it. In my 20+ years of regularly travelling to the States, I've almost always had great interactions with the people I've met in all parts of the US I've visited, and I've been all over. "Warm and welcoming" is a very good description. I hope to be able to visit again in the future.

I think you’re all within your right to keep your distance from us. Our disgraceful leadership, even if it doesn’t accurately represent our people, we must suffer under it but no reason for you to do the same. We just hope you’re aware it’s only a few more years and we can begin to heal the whole relationship with more sane leaders that hopefully do see the strength and value in a positive relationship with a norther…

> [...]even if it doesn’t accurately represent our people

I beg to differ, seeing that the US had free and fair elections - media bias aside.

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