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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by reliabilityguy »

jari_mustonen wrote: post #567
adverbly wrote: post #341

Well hopefully this is short, minimally lethal, and leads to regime change for all those involved.

There is nothing ideal about that outcome. The "regime change" people talk about is intended to look like what happened in Libya: A failed state that falls in anarchy.

> look like what happened in Libya: A failed state that falls in anarchy.

This comment just shows that you have no idea what Iran is, and how it differs from Libya.

Libya is a loose conglomerate of tribes. Iran majorly Persian that see themselves as one nation. Completely different dynamics.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by Rover222 »

Iranians are celebrating, btw. This is what they have been dreaming of. This is their chance to finally take their country back, and I think they'll do it.

I can't think of a better use of US military power in the world than to take out this terrible regime and let the Iranians do the rest. This isn't Iraq or Venezuela. People saying that we can't bomb our way into regime change apparently didn't follow the protests and massacres very closely a couple months ago. Iranians were begging for help so that they could topple the regime.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by eleventyseven »

underdeserver wrote: post #585

I am saddened by all of these comments. Will not one of you try to steelman this decision? Or do you truly, fully believe the entire US government and intelligence complex, supported by roughly 50% of your compatriots, are warmongering baboons?

I am saddened by your gullibility. Your first instinct is to trust this administration? Who has repeatedly showed utter contempt for the very idea of truth, the constitution, the rule of law, and science, merely because half of American voters are brainwashed?

This administration's arguments do not deserve to be steelmanned.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by Rover222 »

coffinbirth wrote: post #494

> Iranian media now report 40 killed and 48 students injured following the strike on a girls’ elementary school in Minab, as rescue and recovery efforts continue. Congrats America!

And the tens of thousands of Iranians murdered for protesting? Did you care about them?

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by markus_zhang »

reliabilityguy wrote: post #615
sega_sai wrote: post #363

The take home message from this is that the only way for any country to be secure is to have nuclear weapons.

Israel has nuclear weapons. Did it keep them safe?

Pretty safe if you ask me, judging from their…location and historical context.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by Rover222 »

yoavm wrote: post #509
alex_low wrote: post #382

I'm surprised this has not been mentioned, for context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres

Not surprising - people don't count deaths in the Middle East if they're caused by fellow Middle Easterns, except Israel. Living in Europe I've never heard about a protest against Saddam (250,000 - 1,000,000 dead), Khamenei (30,000 in a week?), Assad (> 300,000 civilians) etc. This is business as usual. It's only news if someone else does it.

this is so true

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by hypeatei »

"Iran tried to interfere in 2020, 2024 elections to stop Trump, and now faces renewed war with United States"[0]

So we're going to war with Iran based on election fraud conspiracies from MAGA?

0: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1161475725227...

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by dyauspitr »

squidbeak wrote: post #587
neves wrote: post #517

Iran has marvelous cities, sim of the greatest humanity archeological treasures. It hurts my heart to see Americans destroying them (and the thousands of lifes).

Iran also has a gang of murderous theocratic nutters running it, massacring their citizens for taking to the streets and singing songs, undermining foreign societies, and lending their knowhow and drones to other, bigger psychopaths for their invasions. It'll gladden my heart if the leadership is destroyed, even if some old pretty masonry gets chipped along the way.

> massacring their citizens for taking to the streets and singing songs

The US is also doing this albeit fewer people.

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