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Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by bloppe »

naveen99 wrote: post #569
9cb14c1ec0 wrote: post #566

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using an API key is orders of magnitude more expensive. That's the difference here. The Claude Code subscriptions are being heavily subsidized by Anthropic, which is why people want to use their subscriptions in everything else.

They are subsidized by people who underuse their subscriptions. There must be a lot of them.

I think the people who use more than they pay for vastly outnumber those who pay for more than they use. It takes intention to sign up (not the default, like health care) and once you do, you quickly get in the habit of using it.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by andreagrandi »

co_king_5 wrote: post #592
andreagrandi wrote: post #570

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I suspect you may not be writing code regularly... If I have to ask Claude the same things three times and it keeps saying "You are right, now I've implemented it!" and the code is still missing 1 out of 3 things or worse, then I can definitely say the model has become worse (since this wasn't happening before).

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I haven't experiences this with gpt-5.3-codex (xhigh) for example. Opus/Sonnet usually work well when just released, then they degrade quite regularly. I know the prompts are not the same every day or even across the day, but if the type of problems are always the same (at least in my case) and a model starts doing stupid things, then it means something is wrong. Everyone I know who uses Claude regularly, usually have the same esperience whenever I notice they degrade.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by KeplerBoy »

Wobbles42 wrote: post #237
mikeg8 wrote: post #177

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That doesn’t mean that the subscription itself is losing money. The margin on the subscription could be fine, but by using that margin to R&D the next model, the org may still be intentionally unprofitable. It’s their investment/growth strategy, not an indictment of their pricing strategy.

They have investors that paid for training of these models too. It could be argued that R&D for the next generation is a separate issue, but they need to provide a return on the R&D in this generation to stay in business.

The return of R&D can just be an inflated valuation, there's no immediate need to make actual money.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by LinXitoW »

Bolwin wrote: post #210
serf wrote: post #22

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its not that innocent. a 200 dollar a month customer isn't trying to get around paying for tokens, theyre trying to use the tooling they prefer. opencode is better in a lot of ways. tokens get counted and put against usage limits anyway, unless theyre trying to eat analytics that are CC exclusive they should allow paying customers to consume to the usage limits in however way they want to use the models.

Anthropic is offering a steep discount in their plans. I highly doubt they want you using it in a harness where you can trivially switch away when someone else releases a better model

Funny, because you CAN switch Claude Code to other providers and models easily.

Anthropic is just a deeply "mis-dev-anthropic" company.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by choilive »

trillic wrote: post #583
andreagrandi wrote: post #273

I'm only waiting for OpenAI to provide an equivalet ~100 USD subscription to entirely ditch Claude. Opus has gone down the hill continously in the last week (and before you start flooding with replies, I've been testing opus/codex in parallel for the last week, I've plenty of examples of Claude going off track, then apologising, then saying "now it's all fixed!" and then only fixing part of it, when codex nailed at t…

The rate limit for my $20 OpenAI / Codex account feels 10x larger than the $20 claude account.

YES. I hit the rate limit in about ~15 mins on Claude. But it will take me a few hours with Codex. A/B testing them on the same tasks. Same $20/mo.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by randusername »

Loic wrote: post #369
bilekas wrote: post #314

It might be some confirmation bias here on my part but it feels as if companies are becoming more and more hostile to their API users. Recently Spotify basically nuked their API with zero urgency to fix it, redit has a whole convoluted npm package your obliged to use to create a bot, Facebook requires you to provide registered company and tax details even for development with some permissions. Am I just old man screa…

They put no limits on the API usage, as long as you pay. Here, they put limits on the "under-cover" use of the subscription. If they can provide a relatively cheap subscription against the direct API use, this is because they can control the stuff end-to-end, the application running on your system (Claude Code, Claude Desktop) and their systems. As you subscribe to these plans, this is the "contract", you can use onl…

I'm with the parent comment. It was inevitable Netflix would end password-sharing. It was inevitable you'd have to pick between freeform usage-based billing and a constrained subscription experience. Using the chatbot subscription as an API was a weird loophole. I don't feel betrayed.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by xnx »

bilekas wrote: post #314

It might be some confirmation bias here on my part but it feels as if companies are becoming more and more hostile to their API users. Recently Spotify basically nuked their API with zero urgency to fix it, redit has a whole convoluted npm package your obliged to use to create a bot, Facebook requires you to provide registered company and tax details even for development with some permissions. Am I just old man screa…

What is given can be taken away. Despite the extra difficult this is why unofficial methods (e.g. scraping) are often superior. Soon we'll see more fully independent data scraping done by cameras and microphones.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by naveen99 »

bloppe wrote: post #621
naveen99 wrote: post #569

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are subsidized by people who underuse their subscriptions. There must be a lot of them.

I think the people who use more than they pay for vastly outnumber those who pay for more than they use. It takes intention to sign up (not the default, like health care) and once you do, you quickly get in the habit of using it.

Of course, like gym memberships. VC’s subsidizing powerlifters…

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by chaos_emergent »

mh2266 wrote: post #165
archeantus wrote: post #67

Not according to this guy who works on Claude Code: https://x.com/trq212/status/2024212378402095389?s=20 What a PR nightmare, on top of an already bad week. I’ve seen 20+ people on X complaining about this and the related confusion.

woof, does Anthropic not have a comms team and a clear comms policy for employees that aren’t on that comms team?

Probably not, they’re like four years old and they’re 2500 people at the company. My guess is that there are but a handful of PMs.
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