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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by bugthe0ry »

Flere-Imsaho wrote: post #587
erikbye wrote: post #537

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It's funny to me how still so many don't realize you don't get hired for the best positions for being a 10x programmer who excels at hackerrank, you get hired for your proven ability to deliver useful products. Creativity, drive, vision, whatever. Code is a means to an end. If you're the type of programmer who thinks of yourself as just a programmer, and take pride in your secure code, ability to optimize functions a…

I was nodding my head agreeing with you but then remembered John Carmack, who seems to deliver both... He takes great pride in writing ground breaking code, for industry defining products. We should all try and be more like John Carmack.

The man is on a different level, cognitively speaking. That's like asking sprinters to "just be more like Usain Bolt". Some people are just built different. Carmack is one of them.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by Capricorn2481 »

crazygringo wrote: post #110
Rumple22Stilk wrote: post #95

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Obviously, all the people that disagree with your framing and see AI as the largest possible boost to mankind, giving us more assistance than ever. From their standpoint, it's all the negativity that seems crazy. If you were against that , you'd have to have something wrong with you, in their view. Hopefully most people can see both sides, though. And realize that in the end, probably the benefits will be slow but st…

> and also the dangers will develop slowly yet be manageable

Like everything else in tech? An industry that moves so fast, it famously outpaces all legislation?

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by catwell »

tabs_or_spaces wrote: post #504

I'm happy for the guy, but am I jealous as well? Well yes, and that's perfectly human. We have someone who vibe coded software with major security vulnerabilities. This is reported by many folks We also have someone who vibecoded without reading any of the code. This is self admitted by this person. We don't know how much of the github stars are bought. We don't know how many twitter followings/tweets are bought. The…

You are most likely confusing OpenClaw with Moltbook, which is the project that had the most glaring vulnerabilities. But even if OpenClaw was full of holes it would not matter.

Peter is not just a random "vibe coder" and he does not need to be hired by OpenAI to achieve "success". Before this he founded and sold a company that raised €100M. It is not his first project in the space either (see VibeTunnel for instance).

OpenAI is not hiring him for his code quality. They are hiring him because he proved consistently that he had a vision in the space.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by citizenpaul »

tabs_or_spaces wrote: post #504

I'm happy for the guy, but am I jealous as well? Well yes, and that's perfectly human. We have someone who vibe coded software with major security vulnerabilities. This is reported by many folks We also have someone who vibecoded without reading any of the code. This is self admitted by this person. We don't know how much of the github stars are bought. We don't know how many twitter followings/tweets are bought. The…

HN Really hates understanding business. All these comments, yet no one has gotten the answer right.

OpenAI bought marketing and now someone else cannot buy openclaw and lock out Openai revenue from a project that is gaining momentum.

There are a many of these business moves that seem like nonsense.

1. Bought for marketing.

2. Adversarial hire. ie hire highly skilled people before your competitors can even if you don't have anything for them do to. Yet...

3. Acqu-hire. Buy a company when you really just want some of the staff.

4. Buy Customers. You don't care about the product and intend to migrate their customers to your system.

5. Buy competition before its a threat.

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Post by thorio »

tabs_or_spaces wrote: post #504

I'm happy for the guy, but am I jealous as well? Well yes, and that's perfectly human. We have someone who vibe coded software with major security vulnerabilities. This is reported by many folks We also have someone who vibecoded without reading any of the code. This is self admitted by this person. We don't know how much of the github stars are bought. We don't know how many twitter followings/tweets are bought. The…

Maybe it still is supposed to sound fancy to say you didn't read any of the code. The guy definitely could very deeply understand, read and edit the code, he developed the industrial standard liberal for PDF editing (used by Dropbox etc).

Just saying what you want might be the future for development of some kinds of software, but this use case sure seems like a very bad idea.

I very much appreciate the vision he put into practice, but feel sorry for the project being acquihired kind of.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by simpleusername »

LMYahooTFY wrote: post #549
erikbye wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny to me how still so many don't realize you don't get hired for the best positions for being a 10x programmer who excels at hackerrank, you get hired for your proven ability to deliver useful products. Creativity, drive, vision, whatever. Code is a means to an end. If you're the type of programmer who thinks of yourself as just a programmer, and take pride in your secure code, ability to optimize functions a…

This is exactly right. The goal is delivering a useful product to someone, which just requires secure enough, optimized enough, efficient enough code. Some see the security, optimization, or efficiency of the code itself as the goal. They'll be replaced.

Except it wasn't and still isn't secure enough.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by PUSH_AX »

elxr wrote: post #258
piker wrote: post #3

Did this guy just exit the first one man billion-dollar startup for... less than a billion?

The fact that 1 billion is the threshold you chose to highlight shows the ridiculousness of this industry. Openclaw is an amazing piece of hard work and novel software engineering, but I can't imagine OpenAI/anthropic/google not being able to compete with it for 1/20th that number (with solid hiring of course).

> Openclaw is an amazing piece of hard work and novel software engineering

Have you tried using it?

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