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That's exactly what russia thought before invading the Ukraine.
Not to be pedantic but it’s just Ukraine. It is an independent country. Russia calls is “the Ukraine” because they think it’s their territory and not an independent nation.
Officials Claim Drone Incursion Led to Shutdown of El Paso Airport
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The Taliban did not "win" their insurgency. The US decided to leave because staying was not politically popular, and left. They were not beaten by the Taliban, they were beaten by the political climate at home. If someone is actively kicking your ass, then they decide that you aren't worth the effort to keep hurting and decide to walk away, that doesn't mean you "won" the fight even if you get what you want afterward…
Annoying your parents until they give you a cookie is still getting a cookie. Just because you didn't leverage overwhelming military firepower to get the cookie does not mean you aren't holding a cookie
Your parents get frustrated and leave. You now take a cookie from the jar.
You have a cookie, but that doesn't mean you won the argument.
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The best part about bombing the boats is that the second strikes on them were war crimes, while the few survivors that were picked up... All ended up repatriated. If they were all drug runners, why weren't they put on trial? Why was so much effort made to sink all the evidence? Why did an admiral resign, when told to do this? Everybody involved, starting from the people pulling the trigger , to the people giving the…
>But these people all act like there is no such thing as consequences. Are there?
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I personally don't think that's the whole story. They're likely going to act against the cartels to take out cross-border drone capabilities and are preparing for S-A retaliation as well.
What cross-border drone capabilities, drug deliveries? People are talking like the cartels are conducting Ukraine-style drone warfare and blowing up Americans on the regular. Let's stick to a factual baseline here.
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What cross-border drone capabilities, drug deliveries? People are talking like the cartels are conducting Ukraine-style drone warfare and blowing up Americans on the regular. Let's stick to a factual baseline here.
Well, turns out I was right, so I can't help you there if you didn't understand what I said.
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My understanding is accelerationists or liberals to go full hog so that they can go "see".
For my entire life, the US's idea of "liberals" is extremely small-c-conservative, Chesterton's fence style. The Republicans may wave the "Conservative" flag, but they're the only ones I see going full-hog on pretty much anything. That said, pre-Trump Republicans were milquetoast in comparison to what has happened over the last 13 months. Assuming US democracy doesn't collapse before the next transition of power, I w…
"yeah but I agreed with those"
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#627Earlier quoted context omitted.
For my entire life, the US's idea of "liberals" is extremely small-c-conservative, Chesterton's fence style. The Republicans may wave the "Conservative" flag, but they're the only ones I see going full-hog on pretty much anything. That said, pre-Trump Republicans were milquetoast in comparison to what has happened over the last 13 months. Assuming US democracy doesn't collapse before the next transition of power, I w…
Do you remember when the Democrat Party arrested Trump? Do you remember when they put J6 people in prison in solitary confinement for a year? Do you remember when they locked you in your house for a year? Do you remember when they fired people from the military for not having forced medical procedures? "yeah but I agreed with those"
No, because so far as I know the Democrat Party didn't arrest him.
The State of Georgia arrested him, after a grand jury indicted him on charges of election racketeering, if that's what you have in mind?
> Do you remember when they put J6 people in prison in solitary confinement for a year?
Nope. Tried looking, I find stories about 4 months?
But sure, let's say that's a distinction without a difference. How is this "go full hog"? It's not like solitary confinement is all that rare in the US prison system.
If you want to treat solitary confinement as a wild and unacceptable punishment, please do campaign against it entirely, I'd like to see that change in your system. But it would be a change, which is kinda the point I'm making here: the Democrats *don't do change*. Not fast.
> Do you remember when they locked you in your house for a year?
Three problems with that:
1) Look at my profile to see why that's a dumb question in the first place
2) These clearly show state-level responses, not federal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_local_governmen...
3) Look at the dates on the previous link, which are both significantly shorter than a year, and also (except for CA) entirely contained within Trump's own first term.
So, if you did want to blame just one single party executive, which would be weird, you'd have to blame the Republicans.
> Do you remember when they fired people from the military for not having forced medical procedures?
You know how the military are supposed to follow any lawful orders even when those orders will definitely result in their own deaths?
Of all the pearls people clutch over the pandemic, the two which most confuse me are this particular one about the military, and which specific political tribe ended up being the one affiliated with hating masks. Slap some fake cameo pattern on it, call it "tactical", perhaps brand it "lung armour". Still, was obvious that eventually most people would hate them and it was just a matter of which party picked up the loudest mask haters, as per what happened in the Spanish Flu pandemic.
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When you have multiple paragraphs in a quotation, each paragraph must start with a quote. Only the last paragraph in the quotation ends with a quote. Just pick up any book with dialogue in it and see for yourself. This is why I think your comment came across as you personally endorsing the official statement; it's not clear at first glance where the quote ends. The correct/incorrect placing of quotes is the kind of s…
Which writing style standard does that correspond to? This is an internet discussion board with people from diverse backgrounds. Informal quotation style is common. Your comment is the first time I’ve seen someone assert that new paragraphs should start with a quote.
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Well, turns out I was right, so I can't help you there if you didn't understand what I said.
Right about what? You're just flattering yourself without any substance.
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It is, of course. What they mean, I assume , is that it would reach a tipping point where intervention would be more broadly supported. Virtually everyone is willing to say "that's bad" with regards to something happening somewhere, it is far less agreed upon that the US should intervene in that bad thing. An effective tipping point is probably something on the order of "we feel attacked".
Much of the world was against Saddam Hussein, but it took the wholesale invention of an Iraqi nuclear program to justify and get authorization for deposing him through international military action. Iraq didn't attack us, though in attacking an oil partner they might as well have, but the public certainly didn't feel attacked until someone dreamed up the prospect of Iraq nuking Israel, Europe, and/or us. In that case…