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Re: STFU

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Post by c22 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #285
BeetleB wrote: post #276

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You are being needlessly triggered, to the point that you're not parsing the thread well. 1. I didn't say I do this. It's not my problem. 2. You're exaggerating by saying "everyone else's problem". As is clear from the thread, only certain people view it as a problem. I also don't like people taking selfies on trails. But I know how not to have my contentment be affected by minor problems. Learn to share the trail an…

No. Your first sentence is framed from the point of view of your own experience. Regardless, I will not tolerate sound pollution like this. It's one thing in the city, where noise is chronic and endemic. Bringing that into a natural setting is simply inconsiderate of others, and it is the inconsiderate person who must change their behavior, not the people who are being imposed upon.

This position sounds dysfunctionally non-pragmatic. What does not tolerating sound pollution like this look like to you? In what ways can you possibly enforce your will in such a situation that doesn't immediately turn you into a hypocrite?

Re: STFU

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Post by c22 »

gsinclair wrote: post #549
nozzlegear wrote: post #124

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My wife and I were sitting in the coffee shop/dining area of our grocery store not long ago, eating breakfast before we bought our groceries. There's a gentleman who's usually there on the same weekend days that we are, and he watches videos on his phone very loudly. It was clearly annoying everyone around, but this being Minnesota, nobody was going to bother him about it (instead they just do little glances over the…

That’s good, and I also have spoken to people in public about their noise several times, but… That dude shouldn’t be turning it down; he should be turning it off. My go-to line is: “Excuse me, do you have any earphones?”

This attitude is what brings the conflict from healthy compromise of competing goals to unproductive power struggle. Why is it so important to you that other people's use of public space is subservient to your own?

If I am on a bus or something I have asked other people to turn their audio down, but most other places it's easy enough for me to just move somewhere else.

Re: STFU

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Post by TeamCommet1 »

I'm curious how you're handling the feedback loop from the device's own speakers. If the phone plays back the audio, doesn't the mic pick it up again and create an infinite echo? Or does the 2-second delay just turn it into a slow-motion oscillation?

Re: STFU

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Post by c22 »

on_the_train wrote: post #320
connorgurney wrote: post #46

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As with anything in life, it depends on how you ask.

No. People who are loud do that because they want to be loud. They want to hurt people. And they get off to weaklings being polite. The law is too slow and too forgiving for these destructive forces. We need to bring violence back in a big way.

If we're going to bring violence back in a big way then those with the least consideration for others (the ones you say want to hurt people) will have an outsized advantage in its deployment.

Re: STFU

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Post by Ritewut »

kittikitti wrote: post #597
Ritewut wrote: post #140

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No one is saying don't make noise. They are saying be considerate of those around you. It is not a radical idea.

So you would advocate for someone to do this in public against someone else playing a video on their phone? Do you think this is the most considerate option?

No I think this solution is for people who have social anxiety and are too afraid to talk to people but whatever they feel like they need to do to stand up to inconsiderate assholes

Re: STFU

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Post by boarsofcanada »

hackable_sand wrote: post #616
bobbylarrybobby wrote: post #473

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You tend to know your spouse, you don't know the mental state of people on the train. Especially people who have already demonstrated they don't care about social norms or preserving tranquility in public spaces.

How do any of you actually function in society? Public music should be celebrated. This is someone sharing a cultural touchstone and y'all just want to be antisocial robots.

Someone blaring their choice of music in a public space at 90 dB is a “cultural touchstone”?

I don’t drive, I take public transit daily, and am old enough to remember when you would never experience anything like this (even in the heyday of boom boxes in the 80s). So yeah I’m not convinced it’s a “me” problem.

And returning to the point, if you asked someone 30 years ago to turn their music down they would either comply or say something nasty - not physically assault you.

Re: STFU

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Post by hackable_sand »

boarsofcanada wrote: post #626
hackable_sand wrote: post #616

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How do any of you actually function in society? Public music should be celebrated. This is someone sharing a cultural touchstone and y'all just want to be antisocial robots.

Someone blaring their choice of music in a public space at 90 dB is a “cultural touchstone”? I don’t drive, I take public transit daily, and am old enough to remember when you would never experience anything like this (even in the heyday of boom boxes in the 80s). So yeah I’m not convinced it’s a “me” problem. And returning to the point, if you asked someone 30 years ago to turn their music down they would either com…

Act your age then. Fucking ridiculous.

Re: STFU

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Post by AuthAuth »

connorgurney wrote: post #46
brk wrote: post #33

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Have you tried asking many people to "keep it down"? Generally that doesn't end with them politely keeping it down.

As with anything in life, it depends on how you ask.

Depends on your combat level and their combat level and if you are in a safe zone or on the subway

Re: STFU

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Post by etc-hosts »

rahimnathwani wrote: post #545
etc-hosts wrote: post #80

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Often when I encounter a person loudly listening to music or videos on their phone in a cafe, it's because they are completely unaware of how loud they are or they obviously have some challenging psychological issues ( I live in SF ). I have a lot of wired headphones I got off of Temu, I just give them a pair.

What % of the time does it work? Any adverse experiences (e.g. punch in the face)?

I am the local headphone guy. They are usually shocked anyone would give them anything ever. No face punches yet.

Re: STFU

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Post by jitbit »

athenot wrote: post #143

This is a fun app. One way I deal with people talking on speakerphone, is inviting myself into their conversation and making comments as if I were an active participant. That usually earns me a weird look, and then they go off speaker so I can't hear what's been said. Success. Similar with folks watching reels on speaker, I fake a laugh or make comments about the content. It's awkward enough that they usually stop be…

Sometimes when college kids in a hotel room next to mine are being too loud, I go out, check their room number , go back to my room and give them a call (usually just dialing the room number works).

I pretend to be “Jason from reception” and that “other guests are complaining about the noise”. Works every time.

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