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Is this any worse than Google? Seems like the same business model.
Since when is Google the model to emulate?
since always
ChatGPT Health
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Well, the biggest consequences aren't financial, they're losing your quality of life, or your life itself.
But the effects aren't just financial, look in an ER. People who for one reason or another haven't been able to take care of themselves in the emergency room for things that aren't an emergency, and it means your standard of care is going to take a hit.
Ah yeah, good point.
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> often because of costs/insurance but sometimes literally just accessibility/availability. These are self inflicted problems, we should work on these and improve them, not give up and rely on llms for everything
Is there a proven and guaranteed way to do this? Because otherwise it sounds very idealistic, almost like "if everything were somehow better, then things would be less bad". Doctor time will always be scarce. It sounds like it delays helping people in the here and now in order to solve some very complicated system-wide problem. LLMs might make doctors cheaper (and reduce their pay) by lowering demand for them. The la…
Every other industrialised nation on the planet has figured this out, still some idiots play dumb and ask if the problem is really solvable
Re: ChatGPT Health
#624Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this any worse than Google? Seems like the same business model.
There are lots of companies that do this. Doesn't make it right. The real "evil" here is that companies like Meta, Google, and now OpenAI sell people a product or service that the customer thinks is the full transaction. I search with Google, they show me ads - that's the transaction. I pay for Chatgpt, it helps me understand XYZ - that's the transaction. But it isn't. You give them your data and they sell it - that'…
> You give them your data and they sell it - that's the transaction
I think that's the wrong framing. Let's get real: They're pimping you out. Google and Meta are population-scale fully-automated digital pimping operations.
They're putting everyone's ass on the RTB street and in return you get this nice handbag--err, email account/YouTube video/Insta feed. They use their bitches' data to run an extremely sophisticated matchmaking service, ensuring the advertiser Johns always get to (mind)fuck the bitches they think are the hottest.
What's even more concerning about OpenAI in particular is they're poised to be the biggest, baddest, most exploitative pimp in world history. Instead of merely making their hoes turn tricks to get access to software and information, they'll charge a premium to Johns to exert an influence on the bitches and groom them to believe whatever the richest John wants.
Goodbye democracy, hello pimp-ocracy. RTB pimping is already a critical national security threat. Now AI grooming is a looming self-governance catastrophe.
Re: ChatGPT Health
#625Earlier quoted context omitted.
ChatGPT used the name on my credit card, a name which isn't uncommon, and started talking about my business, XYZ, that I don't have and never claimed to. Did some digging and there was an obscure reference to a company that folded a long time ago associated with someone who has my name. What makes it creepier is that they have the same middle name, which isn't in my profile or on my credit card. When I signed up for…
“ When I signed up for ChatGPT, not only did I turn off personalization and training on my data, I even filled out the privacy request opt-out …” You did all of that but then you gave them your real name? Visa/MC payment network has no ability to transfer or check card holder name. Merchants act as if it does, but it doesn’t. You can enter Mickey Mouse as your first name and last name… It won’t make any difference. O…
Wasn't aware of this, I've had payments denied because of simple typos in my name on the card or in my billing address.
Re: ChatGPT Health
#626Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are lots of companies that do this. Doesn't make it right. The real "evil" here is that companies like Meta, Google, and now OpenAI sell people a product or service that the customer thinks is the full transaction. I search with Google, they show me ads - that's the transaction. I pay for Chatgpt, it helps me understand XYZ - that's the transaction. But it isn't. You give them your data and they sell it - that'…
> You give them your data and they sell it - that's the transaction I think that's the wrong framing. Let's get real: They're pimping you out. Google and Meta are population-scale fully-automated digital pimping operations. They're putting everyone's ass on the RTB street and in return you get this nice handbag--err, email account/YouTube video/Insta feed. They use their bitches' data to run an extremely sophisticate…
I think you just wrote a treatment for the next HBO Max sunday drama
Re: ChatGPT Health
#627Earlier quoted context omitted.
“ When I signed up for ChatGPT, not only did I turn off personalization and training on my data, I even filled out the privacy request opt-out …” You did all of that but then you gave them your real name? Visa/MC payment network has no ability to transfer or check card holder name. Merchants act as if it does, but it doesn’t. You can enter Mickey Mouse as your first name and last name… It won’t make any difference. O…
Wasn't aware of this, I've had payments denied because of simple typos in my name on the card or in my billing address.
If it is Visa/MC there is no validation of first/last unless an additional verification step is layered on top by your bank. "Verified by VISA" is one example.
They can, and do, validate on street number and/or zip code so you can certainly error out on typos there ... but not name.
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#628All the Americans here arguing why this is a good thing, how your system is so flawed, etc. remember that this will be accessible to people in countries with good, free healthcare. This is going to be the alternative to going to a doctor that is 10 minutes by car away, that is entirely and completely free, and who knows me, my history, and has a couple degrees. People are going to choose asking ChatGPT instead of the…
>> This is going to be the alternative to going to a doctor that is 10 minutes by car away, that is entirely and completely free, and who knows me, my history, and has a couple degrees. Well then I suppose they'd have no need or motivation to use it, right?
They will because the grassroots marketing will be that its amazing, just like all the other AI tools
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#629Here’s something: my chatGPT quietly assumed I had ADHD for around 9 months, up until October 2025. I don’t suffer from ADHD. I only found out through an answer that began “As you have ADHD..” I had it stop right there, and asked it to tell me exactly where it got this information; the date, the title of the chat, the exact moment it took this data on as an attribute of mine. It was unable to specify any of it, aside…
> nine months previous It likely just hallucinated the ADHD thing in this one chat and then made this up when you pushed it for an explanation. It has no way to connect memories to the exact chats they came from AFAIK.
or had this info injected into its system prompt and was doing everything not to reval it. ChatGPT gets fed your IP address* and approximate location in its system prompt but won't ever admit it and will come up with excuses. Just ask it "search the web to find where im at". It will tell you the country you are in, sometimes down to the city. If you follow up with "how did you know my approximate location?" it will ALWAYS tell you it guessed it. Based on past conversations (that never happened), based on the way you talk, it can even hallucinate that you told it in this exact conversation.
*not entirely sure. I t seems to frequently hallucinate the address
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#630My uncle had an issue with his balance and slurred speech. Doctors claimed dementia and sent him home. It kept becoming worse and worse. Then one day I entered the symptoms in ChatGPT (or was it Gemini?) and asked it for the top 3 hypotheses. The first one was related to dementia. The second was something else (I forget the long name). I took all 3 to his primary care doc who had kept ignoring the problem, and asked…
A cause that needs surgery is readily diagnosed with a Brain MRI. If the doctor didn't order one after symptoms of "balance and slurred speech" then it's not a success of AI but a lethal negligence of the doctor. AI is a substitute for bad doctors not (yet) for good ones.