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The Zionists literally just spent two years blowing up Mosques and committing genocide against Muslims and Christians. I'm sorry, you're not arguing in good faith and we're done here.
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Iron Beam: Israel's first operational anti drone laser system
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#622Iron Dome, Iron Beam… what next, Iron Curtain?
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Their military budget is wayyy up due to the war, so if you’re ignoring recent giving you should also be ignoring recent spending. In 2020 their military budget was ~21b. In 2020 the US gave 3.8b - so 21%, or 1/5. My number was based on 2024 budget and spending, which is why i said 1/4, but you’re probably right that pre-war numbers are more accurate if we’re talking about their long term spending trends. Sources: Is…
worldbank data is off almost by factor of 2 from israeli site: The 2021 budget framework for the "Ministry of Defense" includes an expenditure budget of NIS 62.357 billion, in addition to NIS 14.972 billion in income-contingent expenditure and authorization to commit in the amount of NIS 36.3 billion. In 2022, the framework for the budget includes an expenditure budget of NIS 59.833 billion, in addition to NIS 15 bil…
Wish you’d included your source. I can’t find anywhere that says numbers that high for 2020 or 2021. NIS 62b is less than 20b USD so what I said, and it’s unclear what of those optional portions were actually spent.
Here’s another one that agrees with my number for israel’s military spending: https://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-gantz-liberman-agree-o...
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Reminder the UN said it could feed the millions in Gaza more than the 1200+ calories per person Israel was letting in. The UN at the same time only fed the 400,000 Sudan refugees 400 calories per person per day. Lots of politics at play.
The UN that couldn't move a substantial portion of the aid from the border to the warehouses. Because they wouldn't pay the drivers enough.
This doesn’t pass a basic plausibility test. It’s a war zone where food is super scarce and aid workers are there voluntarily. Between people wanting to feed their communities, and humanitarian aid workers who’ve already shown they are willing to risk life and limb, and gazan truckers with basically no other work, someone is going to be able to move goods for free or very cheap.
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I can both dislike the Israeli government and want for the Israeli population to be protected against missile and drone attacks. I can both dislike Hamas and want for Palestine to be free. Is it that hard for you to imagine that people just want to be safe? This is not a football match where you pick a side and then hate on the other side! Stop doing that! These are real people. If groups shoot stuff at Israel of cou…
The best, surest way to protect Israelis from resistance attacks is to end the reason for a resistance in the first place - the apartheid state. If you want Palestine to be free, this should be a no-brainer.
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> the Gazan government strategically uses humans shields This just means Israel knows they're hitting women and children every time they send a bomb their way. > the majority of Palestinians still support starting this war Palestine isn't a democracy with well documented preferences. Israel is though, so why don't you say that a majority of Israelis are fine with the killing of women and children in Gaza? elcritch, y…
> are you saying US women and children are fair game now? Women have been serving in combat roles in the U.S. military for decades now…
I was obviously referring to civilians. I'll try to spell things out for you more clearly next time.
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> the Gazan government strategically uses humans shields This just means Israel knows they're hitting women and children every time they send a bomb their way. > the majority of Palestinians still support starting this war Palestine isn't a democracy with well documented preferences. Israel is though, so why don't you say that a majority of Israelis are fine with the killing of women and children in Gaza? elcritch, y…
1) The average death per bomb was less than 1. Strikes mostly hit things which had already been evacuated. 2) When human shields get hit we blame the side that put them in harm's way, not the side that harmed them. Just look at the criminal trials in police actions--a hostage dies when SWAT hits a place, the murder rap lands on the person who took the hostage even if it turns out to be a police bullet in the hostage.…
> said WMD existed. On paper.
So they didn't.
> a hostage dies when SWAT hits a place, the murder rap lands on the person who took the hostage even if it turns out to be a police bullet in the hostage.
The murder wrap doesn't fall on the SWAT shooter even when they shoot completely unarmed, innocent people, in their own home. So all your example says is that SWAT gets gets a free pass for murder no matter what. All it takes is for someone to anonymously say "LorenPechtel is a terrorist, he's planning to blow up some children at this address right now" and your chances are slim.
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> the Gazan government strategically uses humans shields This just means Israel knows they're hitting women and children every time they send a bomb their way. > the majority of Palestinians still support starting this war Palestine isn't a democracy with well documented preferences. Israel is though, so why don't you say that a majority of Israelis are fine with the killing of women and children in Gaza? elcritch, y…
> there's a reasonable justification (not just an explanation) for killing women and children if it suits someone's needs The Law of Armed Conflict specifies exactly when it considers such a reasonable justification to exist, which is not "never". You don't get to plop down women and children in front of military installations and go "neener neener" like you're a child on the school playground.
> a reasonable justification
Sure Eli, and I'm sure you're not biased at all, but when you find so many "reasonable" reasons to kill thousands and thousands of civilians, women and children included, and you never ask yourself any questions, there's nothing more anybody else needs to know about you.
The comparison writes itself and when it doesn't, you make it obvious. You wouldn't be the first person who finds justification for something like this.
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A tiny fraction of the US budget which is almost entirely earmarked to be spent buying from US suppliers but sure, the Jews are the reason you have a malfunctioning health system.
Conflating the state of Israel with "the Jews" is antisemitic. Many Jews do not support the state of Israel whatsoever.
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