Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

Post by ukblewis » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:00 AM UTC

wmeredith wrote: post #146

bix6 wrote: post #102

Combined with the other ongoing conflicts it really feels like we’re in a WW3 era

I don't want to downplay the atrocities going on in the current conflicts, but this sort of comment deserves some perspective. About 70 million people were killed in WW2, as of the present day about 1 million have died in the war Russia is waging against Ukraine and about 70k people have died in the Israeli/Palestine conflict. The horrors are most certainly real. But WW3 this era is most certainly not, that's thankfu…

Post by 7952 » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:10 AM UTC

SilverElfin wrote: post #460

7952 wrote: post #233

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There isn't a real solution. Just an opportunity for a few years of peace where people can do the important things in life. That is no small thing though. The danger is in chasing some quixotic nationalist dream. That is never ever going to work out.

Well the real solution is to have a single state and assimilation of some kind, so that people can coexist. It’s possible. Israel itself demonstrates this since nearly 30% of the population isn’t Jewish. But I think a peaceful two state coexistence is unlikely with people who chant “from the River to sea”, which implies the complete erasure of the state of Israel.

Post by ukblewis » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:19 AM UTC

bix6 wrote: post #92

eej71 wrote: post #84

It's always useful to balance these claims against their critics. Towards that end I offer up unwatch. https://unwatch.org/

Is there a specific report arguing that Israel is not committing genocide? I don’t see it on the home page.

Post by margalabargala » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:23 AM UTC

rf15 wrote: post #583

margalabargala wrote: post #563

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What about "there is war in the middle east, still/again" is remotely unique enough in the last century to be a defining moment of the half-century? If an event has the potential to be that, it's the near-peer land war in Europe. The current Israel/Gaza conflict is a blip that is mildly different in degree than the same thing that has happened every decade or so since Israel was created.

Not to this degree in the last few decades. But I feel you are overall correct, it's just that the Internet allows for much bigger coverage of the details of the horrors committed, and it's interesting how governments around the world now fail so completely to shape the narrative.

Post by King-Aaron » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:28 AM UTC

prawn wrote: post #555

pxc wrote: post #226

Comments on this post are disabled for new accounts, but in the era of anti-BDS regulation and other measures aimed specifically at curtailing practical freedom of speech surrounding this conflict, can we really comment freely on this without anonymity? The vast majority (38/50) of US states have passed some form of anti-BDS legislation. We can also expect corporate retaliation against employees who speak about this…

For anyone else not familiar with "anti-BDS": "Anti-BDS laws are legislation that retaliate against those that engage in Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions. With regard to the Arab–Israeli conflict, many supporters of the State of Israel have often advocated or implemented anti-BDS laws, which effectively seek to retaliate against people and organizations engaged in boycotts of Israel-affiliated entities." From Wikipe…