How much is the verification going to cost?
If it's something simple like $100, that's not a big deal. That's on the order of what I'm looking at for my code signing certificates. It would be a an eminently reasonable business expense.
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#622So people from countries US has sanctioned can't even develop and use mobile apps anymore. This will change millions of innocent lives. So unfair and racist. The reason my people are in this mess in the first place is a US coup.
These countries are not affected because they don't have Play Services preinstalled, no?
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#623With Chat Control and similar measures on the way, we are one step closer to your hardware actively working against your interests with no way out.
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#624What about webapps?
That's what I'm wondering about too. Could they enforce verification by requiring you to put a signed "manifest" in your web app's root?
Here's hoping this will be a shot in the arm for PWAs.
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#625Everybody DEMANDS Google "do something" about malware, scam and fake apps. So it does. For an average Joe and Jane, who gets their money stolen, that's a good move. They don't care about technology, they just want their bank, instagram, cat pictures and video calls to work and not get scammed. They are often lured into installing scamware through exactly sideloading APK, completely unaware of the risks. In the articl…
No, the average Janes and Joes don't enable side-loading: it's a toggle, not enabled by default, it's in an advanced setting pane and it's good as it is. Google has been controlling what is installed through their Store and that is enough for 100% of average users. They have been doing it badly though, leaving many scams through, same for Apple. They should focus on this, not the advanced users.
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#626I always wonder, who are the developers doing this? don't they feel bad about going through with these changes or do they fool themselves thinking it's the right thing? is it greed? many other fields have an explicit or implicit ethics code which we seem to lack. I'm thinking about other fields like medicine, engineering, etc. Probably since the entry level to development is low and anyone can do it, it means there's…
I think they believe it is a good change, becuase they're tasked with fixing the fact users can install malware. They've been telling themselves their propaganda for months/years before the changes hit production
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#627Every day we stray farther from the premise that we should be allowed to install / modify software on the computers we own. Will once again re-up the concept of a “right to root access”, to prevent big corps from pulling this bs over and over again: https://medhir.com/blog/right-to-root-access
To be fair to Google, they got so much cricticism for allowing so many spam apps.
Why do we need app stores in the first place?!? No app stores => no vetting, let users download whatever apps they choose, and deal with the consequences.
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#628I'm curious how this is gonna fly considering the DMA in the EU.
My guess is that they've taken the correct lesson from all the EU antitrust fines, and it's not that they should be less anticompetitive. It's that they should be more politically compliant, for things like censorship, surveillance and messaging control. For which this is a useful step.
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#629Everybody DEMANDS Google "do something" about malware, scam and fake apps. So it does. For an average Joe and Jane, who gets their money stolen, that's a good move. They don't care about technology, they just want their bank, instagram, cat pictures and video calls to work and not get scammed. They are often lured into installing scamware through exactly sideloading APK, completely unaware of the risks. In the articl…
I don't think they're teaching old people how to enable developer mode and sideload an apk onto their phone, rather than just asking for bank information over the phone with a convincing lie.
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#630The funny thing is Stallman started his fight like half a century ago and on regular days Hacker News shits on him eating something off of his foot and not being polished and diplomatic, and loves practical aspects of Corporate Open Source and gratis goodies and doesn't particularly care about Free Software. On this day suddenly folks come out of the woodwork advocating for half baked measures to achieve what Stallma…
Stallman actively hurts the cause with his behaviour. I'm not only talking about his eccentricities, but also the adversarial and combative language. Yes, Amazon is trying to swindle us, but few people will be convinced of that when you start your argument by calling the kindle an "Amazon swindle" every time, directly implying that anyone who has one is an idiot or even malicious. Yes, it's unfair that someone can be…
Yeah, let's be nice and polished. No blood, no foot eating, just nice people talking in nice settings (castles, maybe?) around a warm cup of tea.
That's how revolutions succeed, historically.