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The death of partying in the USA

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Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by AlexCornila »

mtalantikite wrote: post #559
1shooner wrote: post #388

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>The demands on kids and families I'd like to understand this more. Families like this that I know talk about it as though it's as unavoidable as their mortgage, but functionally isn't this entirely self-imposed? Is it a lack of vision for an alternative? Are whole families succumbing to peer pressure? I don't relate to it.

I think a lot of families are also optimizing for university admissions. Strong athletes often have an easier time with admissions (assuming they're also good academically). I remember having an interview with an engineering professor from Tufts when I was applying to schools, and one of the first things he asked me was what team sports I played. Being a typical nerdy kid I avoided athletics -- even though I was good…

Ohh university admission another manufactured scam.

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Post by AlexCornila »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #404
1shooner wrote: post #388

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>The demands on kids and families I'd like to understand this more. Families like this that I know talk about it as though it's as unavoidable as their mortgage, but functionally isn't this entirely self-imposed? Is it a lack of vision for an alternative? Are whole families succumbing to peer pressure? I don't relate to it.

Narcissist parents competing with other narcissist parents to be the best parents in the universe. Social media caters to their twisted world view where everyone is living a polished life of perfection so why not them and their perfect high-success family.

yeah but they don’t know that competition is for losers, you compete away all the profits while PE firms laugh all the way to the bank.

Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by 8note »

os2warpman wrote: post #272
biker142541 wrote: post #179

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Perhaps, but what about the median age of buyers? That tells a more complete story here https://www.axios.com/2024/11/04/home-buyer-age-older

The median age of buyers has increased from 31 in 2004 to 38 in 2024. The median age of the population of the United States has increased from 35.3 in 2000 to 38.8 in 2020. (hmmmmm) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_Sta... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_the_Uni... As the population pyramid of the US, which is already a "population Empire State Building", further morphs int…

these rates tend to be described quite awkwardly. They sure read like the owner of the house lives there, but that tends not to be the full story of what counts to the metric

at least in canada, this would mean that 38 y/o are primarily still living in their parents basement, since theyre living with the homeowner, and that counts as home ownership. same thing if you're a roommate with the owner, paying rent.

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Post by nerdsniper »

RyanOD wrote: post #506
vitaflo wrote: post #429

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From talking to many parents they want to give them activities so their kids aren’t bored or sitting inside on their phones all day. Sports is one of those things and lets them also be with other kids. The problem is kids being bored can be a good thing but they are never allowed to be. When I was a kid the internet didn’t even exist let alone cell phones and the only rule was “be home before sundown”. Kids now have…

I can't stress this enough to new or soon to be parents. Hold off on giving your child a phone as long as possible. Once your kids are old enough (your choice...but it's before they are teens), send them outside, shut the door, and go about your business. Tell them to come back for lunch. Then send them outside again and tell them to come back for dinner. I mean this in all sincerity. Don't plan their day for them. M…

It’s different now if the other kids aren’t also outside.

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Post by burnt-resistor »

bluGill wrote: post #243
realityfactchex wrote: post #94

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> open garages Can you say more about open garages and community? Is that about car culture, music, pool tables, garage "bars", sofas, TVs, or something else? Would the whole local neighborhood be welcomed into open garages, or was open-garage-culture limited to people whom people already knew?

Yes. Each garage is different. If you are working on your car in an open garage that is an invite for someone else interested in cars to say hi, offer advice - and possibly pitch in when you are working on something that needs more than 1 person. If you see someone playing guitar in their garage that is an invite to bring your fiddle and join in. If you see someone playing pool that is your invite to play the next ga…

Grandparents lived at the end of a T intersection facing a cul-de-sac on a secondary residential road, so perhaps that made their house seemingly more inviting. The sidewalk was perhaps 30 ft / 9m away from the garage and there were no obstructions.

He had his garage door open a lot but kept an eye on it most of the time. Grandpa once lamented some teenager stole beer from his garage fridge. At one point, around 2005, a 700+ lbs. decorative planter was stolen from their front yard in the daytime. He eventually installed an "electric eye" chime to alert should anyone go into the garage unexpectedly.

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Post by burnt-resistor »

david422 wrote: post #119
burnt-resistor wrote: post #11

My grandma was the head of the local Air Force wives' club. Their house was always stocked like a full bar and at least several people stopped by for a visit just about every day. They knew at least 10 of their neighbors well, and some former neighbors too. Find me community like this anywhere in America these days. Immigrant communities perhaps? Most Americans these days won't interact with their neighbors unless it…

> Most Americans these days won't interact with their neighbors unless it's to complain or they want something transactionally. My family moved into a small cul-de-sac with 5 houses total. I wanted to introduce myself, so I wrote a short letter with a little about ourselves and our contact info, and then dropped it into each neighbors mailbox. Only 1 neighbor wrote back, and 1 neighbor literally _returned the letter_…

> 1 neighbor literally _returned the letter_ to our mailbox.

Not cool. How about that other neighbor though?

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Post by Klonoar »

Apreche wrote: post #28

This article isn’t wrong, but it neglects to mention real estate, transportation, and lodging. A party needs a venue, and it needs guests. And the guests need a way to get to and from the venue. If they stay a long time, they need a place to sleep. People these days don’t own real estate. Wealthy people own it all. Normal people are renting apartments or portions of homes. It’s kind of hard to throw a big party witho…

> And the guests need a way to get to and from the venue.

Add in the odd issue of younger people not getting their drivers licenses or owning/having access to a car.

It could be anecdotal but I've seen this in a number of locales across the country. Curious if there's hard numbers on it.

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Post by Atheros »

latency-guy2 wrote: post #586
starkparker wrote: post #508

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Gen Z in particular is deathly afraid of having an earnest but unflattering moment captured in someone else's TikTok and distributed to the entire planet.

The stakes are naturally higher and harsher than at any point in history. The government, all kinds, are reinforcing it, and governments are entirely reflective of society, there is no washing your hands of this responsibility. Gen-Z is not only completely in the right in being sheepish, their predecessors are entirely to blame, and every attempt to claim they were not a part of the increasing surveillance state is a…

Of course there is a cure: penalties for publishing someone's likeness without permission. No one is getting media releases when they take these videos and publish them online but they are already supposed to. Make it easier to file lawsuits and watch these non-consensual non-newsworthy published videos disappear.

Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by usehackernews »

RyanOD wrote: post #501
mcgrath_sh wrote: post #465

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There is a happy medium between the "hotels every other weekend year round" travel/club sports and no sports, which is sports for your school or community teams. If I ever have kids I absolutely want to enroll them in sports. It will absolutely not be the travel/club teams that means us going to hotels every other weekend. I am probably naïve in thinking that it is possible to play for your high school without club s…

Having two teenage daughters who are athletes, much of this will play out for them depending on how much they really love the sport and whether they are able to play it at the highest levels. If you listen and observe your kids, you'll get a good sense of what THEY want out of the sport. Support them in THEIR journey. And remember at the end of the day, the most important aspects of being an athlete aren't one's perf…

It depends.

My dad pushed me to play a sport I despised. Hated it from when I was young all the way to my last games.

But thank god he did. Changed my life completely. As a mediocre student, I could pick any school I wanted.

Love my dad, and he knew what was best. Even if I hated playing, it was all worth it.

Parents should set their kids up for success, and parents do know best - even if that means upsetting your child.

There’s a difference between what someone wants and what’s best for someone - and during my teens, I had that mixed up.

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