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Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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I feel like we need a CAN SPAM act that includes Smartphone notifications. And gatekeepers like Apple should probably simply be banned from placing any advertisements in push notifications. The updates Microsoft has been making to add stuff the Windows lockscreen and start menu also seem like they should be at the least legally questionable. And of course Google practically invented these things.

We just need to expand it to all forms of communication. Smartphone notifications, web notifications, phone calls, carrier pigeons, town criers and messages in a bottle. Doesn't matter what the medium is. If it is unsolicited commercial communication it shouldn't be allowed.

Don't forget billboards and similar advertisement space.

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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Account > Settings > Communication > Marketing Preferences. Uncheck them all. A bit hidden, but it does work.

At the point in time when I disabled notifications for the app, it did not. I tried that. Even after navigating dark patterns, digging into the menus, and turning those options off, I still received promotion notifications. Perhaps they've fixed it since? I don't know because they've already burned my trust and they've done nothing to earn it back. Publicly acknowledging and apologizing for this would have been a way…

Yes, unfortunately, they have changed their permissions structure a few times, and each time I have had to go back in and re-configure it so that the ads don't show up. It's quite annoying, they seem to be doing everything they can to follow the letter of the law while disobeying its spirit.

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post #348

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> at the very least they should be transfered into a role that doesn't involve coming up with good ideas, since obviously that is outside of their skill set. Proposing one bad idea is not unusual for people whose job is idea-driven. When ideas are the primary currency of your occupation, you'll necessarily generate some losers. But in a company of Apple's size, that's why you rely on colleagues and - critically - a m…

Job security seems to hold higher esteem than prison. Social norms exist outside of criminal law, and a single extremely poor decision is reason enough for people to lose their freedom. Why shouldn’t it be possible for people to lose their jobs?

> Why shouldn’t it be possible for people to lose their jobs?

This is a strawman argument that seems made in bad faith, but I'll bite anyway: I am not saying that no single bad idea or mistake should result in the loss of a job. I am saying that most of the time such a response would be an extreme reaction, especially when directed at the lower-level source of the ideas vs. the more senior accountable parties who are paid to know better.

Magnitude matters, as does accountability. Creating this world of extremes where one mistake of poor idea leads to termination is a pretty quick way to a toxic and non-productive work environment. Enact accountability where it sits, not across the entire chain.

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post #348

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Job security seems to hold higher esteem than prison. Social norms exist outside of criminal law, and a single extremely poor decision is reason enough for people to lose their freedom. Why shouldn’t it be possible for people to lose their jobs?

> Why shouldn’t it be possible for people to lose their jobs? This is a strawman argument that seems made in bad faith, but I'll bite anyway: I am not saying that no single bad idea or mistake should result in the loss of a job. I am saying that most of the time such a response would be an extreme reaction, especially when directed at the lower-level source of the ideas vs. the more senior accountable parties who are…

I think you and I are saying the same thing honestly.

The parent seems to be of the mind that it's never a viable option for someone to lose their jobs for something; which I find an extreme position in itself.

I'm not sure how this context is lost, as precisely this point is what I'm getting at. I'm not jumping to extremes as some imply (including you), I'm saying it should be on the table for the most hopeless egregious offences.

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Things like Daylight could be really great if the software was more tailored to the device. And even then, you are right, I don't think it will ever be anything more than niche. It is the kind of product that if it absolutely struck a chord would be 10% of the market absolute tops. Nothing wrong with that though. It is good to be a part of stable but solid market rather than trying to dominate it and fail.

That's like the people saying retina/HiDPI displays would only be niche, or that portable computing devices would only be niche. Good outside usable displays would revolutionize the world – especially in places that get a lot of sun. And Apple is probably the only company which would be able to capitalize on that with a "new" category of product. It's not different than people needing clothes for cold weather and for…

Retina/HiDPI are almost entirely better than the alternative without them. The "almost" is just because of increased processing and power needs, which pretty quickly became insignificant. They took over because there's no real compromise. You pick the one that's better in all circumstances.

A display that's better outdoors and worse indoors is never going to take off. Approximately nobody wants to carry two phones just so that they can see the screen a little better while they're waiting for the bus. Current screens are good enough for outdoor use, even if not great.

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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That's like the people saying retina/HiDPI displays would only be niche, or that portable computing devices would only be niche. Good outside usable displays would revolutionize the world – especially in places that get a lot of sun. And Apple is probably the only company which would be able to capitalize on that with a "new" category of product. It's not different than people needing clothes for cold weather and for…

Retina/HiDPI are almost entirely better than the alternative without them. The "almost" is just because of increased processing and power needs, which pretty quickly became insignificant. They took over because there's no real compromise. You pick the one that's better in all circumstances. A display that's better outdoors and worse indoors is never going to take off. Approximately nobody wants to carry two phones ju…

> A display that's better outdoors and worse indoors is never going to take off.

That's not what I'm suggesting. We already have those displays. What I'm saying is that once they have the technology to make a great outdoors display without too many compromises on the other parts, then they have an entirely new category of device to replace the old, and to sell hundreds of millions of units.

> Approximately nobody wants to carry two phones just so that they can see the screen a little better while they're waiting for the bus.

You're arguing like you live a limited life, which I'm sure is not the case, you're just arguing in that way in the quote above. People want to be outdoors much more than just to wait for the bus. And approximately 100% of the people who work with computers would prefer to do it in a well-lit environment. Offices and living rooms are currently constructed to shield from light, to let people see their computer or TV screens better.

Not to forget the people who actually work outdoors and need to check blueprints, take orders, or whatever. Bring your laptop to the park on a sunny day and try to use it. It won't be pleasant for your eyes even in the shadow.

> see the screen a little better

It's not a little, it's a lot. Try comparing your phone screen out in the sun with a sheet of paper with something written or printed. The paper is much brighter.

> Current screens are good enough for outdoor use, even if not great.

They are absolutely awful, and you need to compare in real life with better screens or paper to get a feel for it.

This is why I originally wrote that Apple is the right company to bring this kind of technology to the masses. They understand that the general public will buy products that are great to use, not products which are capable of being used if the user suffers all the time.

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They are also marketing “nearby” coffee shops in the Home Screen stack widget which is pretty invasive, I’m surprised not to hear about it

They're not. The Maps widget shows you nearby businesses. You can remove the widget.

Turns out they are

https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/p147sn/apps_like_yelp_...

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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post #456

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Uber violates this. At least as of a few years ago, there was no way to get notifications about driver arrival without also getting special offer and Uber Eats spam notifications periodically. Not only was there no opt-in consent, there was no way to turn them off without disabling the status updates. It's particularly bad when apps with legitimate time-sensitive functionality do this. I denied the app the ability to…

So does "Too Good To Go". Missed a pickup notification because I didn't remember having angrily turned off all notifications one day, since they don't have any more fine-grained option. I let their support know, but they don't care. I guess as long as it still brings in more additional sales than it costs in lost users, it works for them. This is something I like better on Android: As far as I remember, separate "not…

It's still fundamentally down to app to properly use those multiple channels even on Android; if they want to, they can shove ads down the main channel instead.

This is one of those cases where ultimately the app stores need to have a rule about it, and actively enforce it with hefty penalties for non-compliance.

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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Retina/HiDPI are almost entirely better than the alternative without them. The "almost" is just because of increased processing and power needs, which pretty quickly became insignificant. They took over because there's no real compromise. You pick the one that's better in all circumstances. A display that's better outdoors and worse indoors is never going to take off. Approximately nobody wants to carry two phones ju…

> A display that's better outdoors and worse indoors is never going to take off. That's not what I'm suggesting. We already have those displays. What I'm saying is that once they have the technology to make a great outdoors display without too many compromises on the other parts, then they have an entirely new category of device to replace the old, and to sell hundreds of millions of units. > Approximately nobody wan…

I guess I misunderstood "needing clothes for cold weather and for warm weather. Right now we only have indoor clothes..." as suggesting we could have different screens for indoor and outdoor.

I often work outside in the middle latitudes when it's nice out, which usually means sunny. My laptop's display is fine in the shade. If I was desperate, I could use one of those third-party apps that enables HDR mode for all content to get it brighter than 100%, but so far I haven't needed it.

Which screens are you using outdoors? There's a pretty wide range of maximum brightness out there, so your experience will vary considerably depending on your specific hardware. A Dell Pro 16 laptop (picked arbitrarily from dell.com, I know nothing about it otherwise) display does 300 nits. My laptop does 1,000 nits, 1,600 with an HDR hack. An iPhone from the past few years will do 2,000. This is a wide range of usability.

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