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Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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I'm a white male and I got plenty of jobs. Perhaps you just lack qualifications or soft skills.

https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1920817550301999229?s=46

1. Universities are different, who knows how they decide to admit people

2. In the private sector, white men are not disadvantaged. Give me a fucking break man.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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So if it crashes, then it's Tesla's fault and they pay? Or do you pay?

Pretty sure what that commenter claims to be doing is illegal. At least in my state. And, he would be liable if that's what you're asking. Tesla, at no time, claimed that their vehicles should be used in that fashion.

All "full self driving" cars right now have "disengagements" where a human operator has to take over.

https://www.reuters.com/article/technology/waymos-self-drivi...

> Disengagements occur when the self-driving system is deactivated with control handed back to humans because of a system failure or a traffic, weather or road situation that required human intervention.

> Waymo, for example, drove 352,545 miles in the state during the period with only 63 disengagements. Cruise vehicles drove about a third less, at 127,516 miles, and had 105 disengagements.

> The third best performance came from Nissan Motor Co, which drove 5,007 miles and had 24 disengagements, meaning that its vehicles had disengagements on average every 208 miles.

Notice that Tesla isn't even included. That's because they don't actually have full self driving tests ongoing like this. Just the half-assed version they beta test with their customers on public roads.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Where's Trump's socialized medicine plan? That's by far the most populist desire of populist America. It's very easy to get caught up in the name of things and not look at it substantively, which is what you seem to be attacking the other poster for. Trump might have a populist appeal, but it doesn't make him a populist. The weight of Trump's actions and promises lie in all this deportation and culture war nonsense,…

As I mentioned: >People on the left don't recognize it [populism] because they don't recognize the tools that right wing people use to stimulate the working class. I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole because it takes years to escape the ideological camp you grew into. But suffice to say, both sides ultimately want the same things and disagree on the route to take to that destination (while telling their base tha…

I'm not sure how your post doesn't fall for exactly what you claim to be criticizing. You do not engage with the substance of anything I said and instead just name call.

I'm not talking about the route, I'm talking about the destination. A socialized medical plan is incredibly popular on both sides of the political spectrum and polls well with Trump's supporters. That's not an avenue, that's a destination. I have a feeling you will twist this around and try to make it how it can either be served by market forces or the gov't and that's just "idealogical" but populism is an ideology which I am accusing you of not understanding. You didn't engage with that. You just repeated your premise.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#624

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If you think that then you misunderstand what DEI really means. Conservatives assume black people can never be smart and therefor hiring standards must fall for DEI programs to happen. The reality is that there are more smart black and white people capable of doing your job than you are capable of hiring. So maybe consider taking the black woman who is just as qualified so your department is no longer so lily white a…

There is data (e.g. on Harvard university admissions) which shows that average SAT cut-off scores of admitted students are very different for various racial groups, which strongly hints at DEI based discrimination. I don't agree with that happening. I think people should be admitted/rejected based only on their ability, not partly based on whether they happen to fall in some group for which the quota has to be increa…

The SAT is just one very small aspect of criteria for acceptance. Even when I went to school it was well-understood that the difference between a 1500 and 1600 didn't matter - that was never going to be what got you admitted.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1920817550301999229?s=46

1. Universities are different, who knows how they decide to admit people 2. In the private sector, white men are not disadvantaged. Give me a fucking break man.

Remember with the SEC tried (and failed after Trump’s win) to mandate every board have at least 2 “diverse” (no white dudes) members? Not a lot of merit there!

https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2025/01/12/fifth-circuit-vac...

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#626

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I’m not sure I follow… how is that Russian? Wouldn’t it be British?

Here's some potential background. A lot of it rhymes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics#Con...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20...

A little money on propaganda goes a long way

Related https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Butina#National_Rifle_As...

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#627

I worked at two National Laboratories, Argonne and Idaho, on NSF funded internship grants. The second one turned into a full time job, again on an NSF grant. The first one was on supercomputing, writing proof of concept code for a new supercomputing operating system (ZeptoOS). The second was on the automated stitching of imagery from UAVs for military applications (at a time when this was not commoditized at all, we…

is this type of research really at risk? I thought the feds were after research with an ideological bent. Rather than speculate about how the feds might see certain research as ideological, can we have some concrete examples of the type of research projects that have been discontinued?

Do you know that sealioning on the 1000th ridiculously bad cut is just in bad faith right? At this point we don't actually need to spend time proving how the Trump administration is doing a wrong thing actually, it can be inferred from the other EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#628

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I would counter your anecdata with the 5 friends I have, all of whom are whiter than printer paper and 3 of whom are deeply conservative, who received GRFP. Your failure to get GRFP had nothing to do with the diversity statement.

Yeah anecdotes don't tell you much. You may have noticed I was also replying to an anecdote. What tells you more is that the diversity statement exists and they say it's used as part of scoring. Therefore, unless the amount of score it counts for is infinitesimally small, some people win/lose based on the content of their diversity statement. Was that me? Who knows. But unless the whole thing was just busy work for n…

I think it's important to remember that, historically, science has been very racist and very sexist. It's not like the diversity statement came out of nowhere - the majority of our understanding of a lot of topics only comes from studying white men.

This is why AA men and women have significantly worse healthcare outcomes, or why women are more likely to die in a car crash.

Yes, maybe it's slightly inconvenient to write a diversity statement. But it's because of these types of initiatives that we're able to build more equitable research and improve outcomes for a variety of minority groups.

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is, suck it up. Or, at least, understand why they're asking for it instead of assuming it's some sort of strange, convoluted, personal attack on your character.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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DEI in practice is illegal (we don't get to make decisions based on race, or other protected categories of a person's identity). I get trained on this once a year at work. What we do instead is improve the probability that underrepresented people can enter the hiring pipeline, e.g., by investing in schools.

DEI is not illegal. Some implementations can be illegal (racial quotas), but other implementations are not (setting up a job fair booth in historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) instead of only Ivy League universities; not preferring Ivy League dropouts over HBCU graduates).

I took their statement to mean more that "DEI as described by conservatives is already illegal" not that the concept of DEI is illegal. But they did say "in practice" which seems to throw my interpretation off. In practice, DEI initiatives are exactly as you've described. Sometimes with more specific mentoring opportunities and more or less investment in the college or earlier pipeline.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#630

I worked at two National Laboratories, Argonne and Idaho, on NSF funded internship grants. The second one turned into a full time job, again on an NSF grant. The first one was on supercomputing, writing proof of concept code for a new supercomputing operating system (ZeptoOS). The second was on the automated stitching of imagery from UAVs for military applications (at a time when this was not commoditized at all, we…

is this type of research really at risk? I thought the feds were after research with an ideological bent. Rather than speculate about how the feds might see certain research as ideological, can we have some concrete examples of the type of research projects that have been discontinued?

Okay, take a moment and think: what about this administration has given you the impression that they're going to take the time to carefully understand a system they're bent on dismantling?
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