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Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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"It’s the T-bills wot dun it." That’s my read on why the U.S. just paused the global tariff hike to 10%. From the beginning, I’ve believed the executive branch's real goal was to push down the yield on the 10-year Treasury. Why? Because Uncle Sam has to refinance a mountain of debt this year, and the cost of that depends heavily on Treasury yields — especially the 10-year. That’s the rate that sets the tone for every…

I think this would be expected though, no? Sure, there's flight to safety, but you're also reducing exports to the US, reducing the number of dollars flowing to foreign nationals, which reduces the demand for treasury bills, which an excess of dollars would often be used to buy to have an inflation-"proof" store for your dollars without currency risk. You would also expect devaluation of the dollar from tariffs / trade-war, which I would also expect to cause selling of t-bills in favor of local currencies

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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Threaten people with a 49% national sales tax, and suddenly they celebrate when it's only 10%.

And China which accounts for about 20% of our imports have 130% tariffs.

Brings the average rate up to 33%.

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

#623

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Congress does have the power (article I, section 8), however it delegated this power to the president for "extraordinary" situations with certain laws.

> The nondelegation doctrine is rooted in certain separation of powers principles.1 In limiting Congress’s power to delegate, the *nondelegation doctrine exists primarily to prevent Congress from ceding its legislative power to other entities* not vested with legislative authority under the Constitution. As interpreted by the Court, the doctrine seeks to ensure that legislative decisions are made through a bicameral…

The list of law firms with the expertise, resources, and will to take on the administration is getting shorter and shorter, because he's targeting the ones that piss him off with EOs aimed to wreck them if they don't pay up and shut up, and that strategy is working.

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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Doesn't help America as much as some people might think. The world has seen that Trump is erratic, and America imports too much from China to just ignore the 125% (!!!) tariff on the country.

Trump couldn't care less about America. He treats the presidency as his private business. This was all a ploy to make a lot of money, nothing else.

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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Also china has 125% tarriff but the reason that they couldn't originally give 10% to Vietnam was trans-shipment of Chinese goods. If it wasn't happening before, it certainly will be now. What's actually wrong with them.

The reason they have reduced all tariffs back down to 10% even for the countries that were obviously transshipping (Vietnam, Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia) is that they need time to negotiate with those countries, to make sure these countries now put similarly high tariffs (100%+) on China, so that transshipping is reduced to nothing

Wouldn't it be smarter to do that before increasing the tarriff to 125%? That doesn't make sense to me either..

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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This man's absurdity never ceases to amaze me. How can his supporters appreciate all this - constant - chaos? Moreover, from the outside (European here), it looks like the US president can literally do whatever he wants without being subject to regulations or facing any consequences - pretty much like a dictatorship. No discussion, no parliament, no opposition taken into account. Crazy.

Evidently Congress gave the presidency emergency powers to do what he wants with tariffs, all he has to do is declare an emergency. Just one more example of how Congress is completely broken.

The US currently has 49 ongoing national emergencies, that are renewed every year by the president

The last 8 or so were created by Trump. Like you said, he's just doing what is already allowed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_i...

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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The 10% apparently also apply to Canada and Mexico now, which they didn’t before: > In a strange turn of events, the president seems to have added another 10 percent tariff to Canada and Mexico. Asked earlier if the 10 percent tariff extended to those countries, Scott Bessent, the Treasury secretary, said that it did. And a White House official clarified for me just now that that was the case. Previously, Canada and…

Also china has 125% tarriff but the reason that they couldn't originally give 10% to Vietnam was trans-shipment of Chinese goods. If it wasn't happening before, it certainly will be now. What's actually wrong with them.

> What's actually wrong with them.

Market manipulation. 1. Sell. 2. Threaten tariffs. 3. Buy. 4. Walk back tariffs threats. 5. Repeat.

With the secret step 0: Pay enough of an Indulgence to get in the loop of when those are going to happen, and to stay in their good graces so the DoJ doesn't hit you for insider trading.

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

#628

"It’s the T-bills wot dun it." That’s my read on why the U.S. just paused the global tariff hike to 10%. From the beginning, I’ve believed the executive branch's real goal was to push down the yield on the 10-year Treasury. Why? Because Uncle Sam has to refinance a mountain of debt this year, and the cost of that depends heavily on Treasury yields — especially the 10-year. That’s the rate that sets the tone for every…

The T-Bill auction today went off without issue and that was before this announcement. https://www.barrons.com/articles/treasury-bond-auction-today...

That's a great data point. Thanks!

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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Seems they reversed course on that. Or, they don’t know what they’re doing. > It's been a confusing day. > As Verity said, it turns out Canada and Mexico are not getting a new 10 per cent tariff after all. > The White House reversed its earlier announcement in a new statement just now. Here's the bottom line: No new developments for Canada and Mexico today. > That means there are still worldwide 25 per cent tariffs o…

They know what they are doing. The goal is decoupling from China. They raised tariffs on everyone to see which countries stood with US and which stood with China. Once each country has made their allegiance clear, they delay the deadline to give more time for negotiation. They likely want every ally to raise their tariffs on China to be very very high, to avoid any more transshipping from China.

But the EU announced retaliatory tarrifs, just they weren't yet in effect. Why did they get off scot free?

Re: Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries

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Do you have a link or article title for reading about the dropping of tbills

The scary part is that it has been scrubbed in many sites https://www.ft.com/content/0005e091-930d-46ff-9e81-8591704a9...

Because the t-bill auction came in incredibly strong. Their conclusion analysis wuickly looked foolish and their embarrassed.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/all-eyes-turn-to-treasurys...

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