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Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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If you have a problem with Unit 8200 alumni, you’re going to have a difficult time buying commercially available security products. Palo Alto Networks, Armis, Checkpoint, and many others were either founded by or otherwise have former 8200 folks on staff. Then there’s crowdstrike, founded by a Russian. Or Fortinet, which was founded by Ken Xie (born in Beijing.) I guess you could base your entire security stack on F…

All of this "VPN" access software is pretty disgusting, from the perspective of the "VPN" "client". Absolutely untrustworthy bloated spying crap. I boycot it every time I can just for this.

Wiz does many things. VPN, by any definition, is not one of them.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Customer feedback (2024), https://old.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/1c1s9r2/wiz_... > Wiz combines a graph search for asset management with agentless vuln and malware scanning that clones EBS volumes and scans them on their infrastructure. That's a great combo for vuln management, but has some downsides like delays between scans and cloud costs. They have a sensor with solid detection rules, and are okay at a b…

Isn't this a roundabout kickback scheme?

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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When you use a cloud provider to setup a VM, what policies do you apply to it in order to ensure it’s secure? Wiz and other tools in the same space tell you and tracks compliance across your fleet. Idk if wiz does this, but their competitors have “compliance packs” which are preset compliance patterns, IE hipaa, finra, etc. That way you click a button and it tells you every change you need to make to be compliant Edi…

I don't know anything about cloud VMs, but I'm confused about how this is possible. Wouldn't determining whether you are HIPAA complaint depend on auditing all kinds of application details about how information flows through the system and how authentication and authorization are done? How could this be validated statically by looking at cloud VM config? Is Wiz doing some kind of AI magic over your whole codebase? I…

It probably appeals to the kind of businesses that see compliance as a list of checkboxes. Just make sure employees have signed the nda and contract and stuff. Doesn't matter if they are a salesperson and the nda says they can't talk about the product.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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This deal isn't about security, it's about data. Google already have one of the best security teams in the industry - Project Zero [0]. They don't need Wiz's "enterprise" expertise for security. This deal is about DATA. Wiz, as a cybersecurity vendor, have full remote access to their customers cloud compute storage (EC2 EBS volumes, etc) in the name of "security scanning" - this is actually part of their unique selli…

That doesn't sound very secure at all

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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most people here are also in security and still haven't heard. It's more likely backroom kickbacks (and/or mossad) than invisible unicorn.

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Don't conflate skepticism or criticism of Israel with skepticism or criticism of the Jewish people as a whole.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Again, the parent's point stands. Apple is not changing the game with Apple Vision Pro or Apple Intelligence. Microsoft isn't getting accolades for Windows 11 and Copilot. It's not always smart to bet the farm on a product that nobody wants to pay for. Objectively speaking Google is one of the few companies that saw where the puck was headed and skated there. They built TensorFlow, they sponsored serious local AI res…

TensorFlow is a technology not a product. Having things in a “research” lab are not products. What product have they introduced in the past decade? 15 years? Android is the only one that has gotten any meaningful traction. Does Google have a better LLM based product than OpenAI’s ChatGPT? Well personally for my use case, NotebookLM is better for some things. But it isn’t a better product for most people. Androids pos…

Google made $34.68B in FY2023 from “app, media, and hardware”, so you’re not too far off I reckon.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Mossad aren't the guys doing cyber ops in Israel. They're suave arsim (how else can you blend in Beirut or Tehran). Also, if you've worked with Israeli government cybersecurity teams, they aren't much different in caliber from the kind you'd find at the NSA, GCHQ, or Netherlands.

> They're suave arsim (how else can you blend in Beirut or Tehran). To save others looking up what 'suave arsim' meant: 1. suave -- a normal English the word for charming/confident 2. "arsim" [1] -- apparently a former ethnic slur for Mizrahi Jews [2] now repurposed to mean crude, loud and brash (which sound to me like the equivalent of the British slang term 'chav'). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ars_(slang) [2]…

It was a bad attempt at humor, but pretty much my point is there are a couple other cybersecurity/sigint specific units unrelated to Mossad. And "arsim" isn't as loaded a term anymore - everyone is mixed in Israel now because it's a melting pot.

And saying "Mossad"-this/"Mossad"-that just feels like it's increasingly being used as a dogwhistle.

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