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Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by brokencode »

danielheath wrote: post #604
buildfocus wrote: post #437

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Is the performance gap so huge? Power efficiency yes, absolutely, but for peak performance last I saw the last AMD vs M3 benchmarks were a slightly slower single core, and a little faster in multicore. Doesn't seem as world changing as described.

Most laptops are thermally constrained when it comes to speed - power efficiency means you can run at full speed longer without overheating.

Also, most laptops will run at significantly worse performance when not plugged in. Macs are much more consistent both thermally and when not plugged in.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

GeekyBear wrote: post #525
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #496

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Brazil and India production are just to satisfy Brazil and India requirements (they will tariff heavily or not allowed to be sold otherwise). I don't think Apple has enough final assembly in Thailand or Vietnam yet. US-bound product should still coming from China unless I'm missing something here. I just wouldn't put too much faith in to a one year old article with no followup and then assume that things have actuall…

> Brazil and India production are just to satisfy Brazil and India requirements I agree that this was initially the case, but China's zero Covid policy factory shutdowns led Apple (and others) to start moving production out of China in earnest. India, for example, is now producing current generation iPhones for export, not just makung the cheaper variants for sale inside India. > One of the biggest shifts in manufact…

These are still future looking and it will take Apple awhile to get there. They won't be there next month, or even a year from now, so American consumers are going to have to eat the tariff for a year, probably two, while supply chains are reformed. This isn't going to happen overnight. All the other phone makers are going to be in the same boat, so the pricing power will be there to pass tariffs on to consumers (and the few that can avoid them will take the extra profit like American steel companies are now).

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by TheDong »

usefulcat wrote: post #355
sunshowers wrote: post #268

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Everyone already knows this is what they do, they're just pointing out that it's abusive.

Abusive is a stretch. If you don't like it.. you're free to not buy from them?

I'd be free to not buy from them if they released iMessage and facetime for android so people wouldn't get kicked from groupchats and prevented from being able to video call their grandmother when they switched phones.

Google hangouts / gmail works fine on iOS and android. Same for whatsapp, zoom, signal, etc. Heck, even microsoft teams.

Apple has more money than any of those companies, and yet also has the wildly most anti-competitive restrictive software, ensuring almost all of its services (apple music/books/iMessage/facetime/etc etc) more or less require all your devices to be apple devices.

I don't know if it's abusive, but it's certainly putting more chains on the user than any of the other similar ecosystems.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by ninetyninenine »

alwillis wrote: post #557
ninetyninenine wrote: post #482

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But what other advantage did this give them? Like name specific examples. Feel free to leave, but I honestly don't see where you're coming from.

> But what other advantage did this give them? Like name specific examples. Feel free to leave, but I honestly don't see where you're coming from. Back when Apple used Intel processors, they were at the mercy of Intel's roadmap; if Intel missed a deadline for a new chip, Apple had to change plans. Obviously, that's no longer the case. Back in the Motorola/IBM days, their G5 processor ran so hot that Apple had to crea…

excellent answer. thank you.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by HDThoreaun »

alpaca128 wrote: post #329
elif wrote: post #249

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I'm not sure why you want 4k resolution with a 14 inch screen to use commandline tools and a browser. My hunch is that relaxing this seemingly arbitrary requirement will result in many suitable notebooks

Pixel density is important for crisp small text, so cli on a 14 inch screen and maybe web browsing would be good reasons for a 4k display - it would be the only reasons for me at least.

why do you need crisp text for cli? cli works just fine in 180p still

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by KennyBlanken »

Aeolun wrote: post #470
buildfocus wrote: post #437

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Is the performance gap so huge? Power efficiency yes, absolutely, but for peak performance last I saw the last AMD vs M3 benchmarks were a slightly slower single core, and a little faster in multicore. Doesn't seem as world changing as described.

My $2000 linux desktop is still faster and snappier than the $4000 macbook, but it’s the only thing laptop sized that feels even close.

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Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by duchenne »

woodson wrote: post #594
duchenne wrote: post #592

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The asus zenbook pro is great. The 16inch version is not really bulky. It is 2.4kg, 2TB, 3.2k resolution, great design and build quality. $2200 The 14.5 inch version is 1.6kg, 2TB, 2.9k resolution, also great design and build quality. $1700 https://www.asus.com/laptops/for-creators/zenbook/zenbook-pr... https://www.asus.com/laptops/for-creators/zenbook/zenbook-pr...

From what I’ve seen, they overheat a lot just from having a browser and VSCode running.

I had one for years. Never had overheating issues, except if I put it on my blanket for long.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by lukevp »

jofzar wrote: post #554
mort96 wrote: post #514

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It's baffling to me that some people claim to not see the difference. It's literally light and day to me. It's like someone looking at a low DPI screen and a high DPI screen and not being able to tell the difference.

Yeah I move a window and it's immediately noticable. I'm jealous of people who can't tell.

Same. The suggestion that it’s like audiophiles totally missed the mark, because lots of audiophile claims do not stand up to double blind tests. I can guarantee that 60 vs 120 hz blind tests would be insanely easy to pass if there was window movement or scrolling or basically anything but static frames.
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