The e stands for electronic, marking a departure from traditional mechanical iPhones
Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
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#622At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?
Rumor is that the 17 will have an Air edition that will be thinner/lighter. It won't help the reach issues much but will make them nicer to hold for extended periods of time. IME the minis are nice because of both weight and the ability to comfortably use with one hand.
Size/dimension is the problem!
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#623Earlier quoted context omitted.
That was because they found a security bug in that code and decided to ifdef it out if it wasn’t being used.
UTM and others use that code to this day. They could fix the bug and re-enable.
Yes but of course they don’t actually consider this to be something they want to support
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#624Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple managed to design its own state-of-the-art CPUs. I wouldn't have imagined that designing its own modem would be such a difficult challenge?
In fairness, Apple started by licensing the ARM core which gave them a base to work from. The modem is fantastically harder unless you can license an existing design that's not qualcomm.
They bought out Intel's modem business (giving them something like to work from), afaik.
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#625Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#626Is this the new SE / Mini?
Edit: Nope. What's different from the 16? Action button? 1 less GPU core? Same camera but no ultra wide? Ahhh, it's just a cheapened 16.
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#627> iPhone 16e will be available in white and black in 128GB, 256GB, and 512GB storage capacities, starting at $599 (U.S.) or $24.95 (U.S.) per month for 24 months. Wait a sec. 24 * 24.95 = $598.80 They'll pay you twenty cents to take the financing?
read the fine print > The last month’s payment for each product will be the product’s purchase price, less all other payments at the monthly payment amount
Aha, 59900 % 24 = 20.
Still interesting this is one of few products offering zero interest financing.
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#628Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure Apple still pays patent licensing fees to Qualcomm even if Apple is now manufacturing their own modem.
In the past, Qualcomm was infamous for high licensing fees. However, part of the process of creating an open industry standard like 4G/5G is getting a legally binding commitment from the patent holders to license standards essential patents to all takers on "reasonable" terms. > If the patent holder refuses upon request to license a patent that has become essential to a standard, then the standard-setting organizatio…
And I noticed that Apple C1 skipped 3G network entirely. Only has 2G,4G and 5G support.
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#629Earlier quoted context omitted.
Its been a long slog for Apple, they have been working on this since 2018, and they had to keep extending its supply agreements with Qualcomm... "Inside Apple’s Spectacular Failure to Build a Key Part for Its New iPhones" >The 2018 marching orders from Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook to design and build a modem chip—a part that connects iPhones to wireless carriers—led to the hiring of thousands of engineers. The goal…
Apple managed to design its own state-of-the-art CPUs. I wouldn't have imagined that designing its own modem would be such a difficult challenge?
The CPU/SOC operates independently with limited protocols (such as PCIe, NVMe, etc.). In contrast, a baseband processor must communicate with various base stations and core networks, requiring precise timing, physical signal alignment, and correct message formats. Even though the 3GPP defines mobile network standards, achieving full compatibility remains extremely challenging.
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#630Earlier quoted context omitted.
100% this, I spend less time glued to my phone and more time in the real world as a result, because of both the smaller size and the battery life I consider this a feature
So you are saying you'll happily pay even more for an even smaller screen and worser battery life :)
I would be happy to pay flagship iphone prices for a flagship quality mini/SE.