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Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by cwalv »

angusturner wrote: post #520

Credit to the engineers that built this, but it fills me with rage that Elon has this sort of unchecked power. How long before this starts getting deployed in safety critical applications or government decision making processes? With no oversight because Elon seems to have the power to dismiss the people responsible for investigating him. Anyone not scared by this concentration of power needs to pick up a book.

That was fast. Perhaps we should imagine this has nothing to do with Musk to avoid completely derailing the conversation

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by amazingamazing »

angusturner wrote: post #520

Credit to the engineers that built this, but it fills me with rage that Elon has this sort of unchecked power. How long before this starts getting deployed in safety critical applications or government decision making processes? With no oversight because Elon seems to have the power to dismiss the people responsible for investigating him. Anyone not scared by this concentration of power needs to pick up a book.

I’m not really following what this has to do with grok. It’s his company, no?

It’s also annoying that the top comment engages in no way with the content of the OP…

It must be truly infuriating to work hard to push a release, and you see it featured on your favorite orange website, only for the top comment to have nothing to do with what was worked on.

Here's a test - if this post was about Starship, the same comment could apply! Neuralink, the same thing! Boring Company, same thing! Wow, could it be that such a comment is really applicable to so many different companies or projects, or is it just a generic one? You decide.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

It blows my mind that Musk hasn't integrated Grok as an app inside their vehicles. A literal AI copilot is a completely novel and killer app that cannot be pulled off by any other vehicle manufacturer.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by spankalee »

InTheArena wrote: post #590
angusturner wrote: post #520

Credit to the engineers that built this, but it fills me with rage that Elon has this sort of unchecked power. How long before this starts getting deployed in safety critical applications or government decision making processes? With no oversight because Elon seems to have the power to dismiss the people responsible for investigating him. Anyone not scared by this concentration of power needs to pick up a book.

Elon's unchecked power at building a model? Or at politics? I always worry whenever I see people telling me how to feel - rage in this case. We are in a political system that is oriented more around getting people to feel rage and hatred as opposed to consensus and deliberation. Elon is the face of that, but it's a much longer and larger problem. Throw in the complete dismisal that anyone not scared of this is ignora…

> actually address and fix systematic problems with the US government

I wonder if you could even name what some of these critical problems are? Or have you just been told that there are problems that justify this chaos?

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by riku_iki »

torginus wrote: post #309
riku_iki wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And DeepSeek is just 3% behind. It seems in that benchmark all LLMs perform well and top is formed within some statistical error.

These percentage points don't mean anything. Look up how the Elo system works. They just add 1000 to the result to make it a nicer number.

There are llms below 1000 in the leaderboard

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by elorm »

KerrAvon wrote: post #597
InTheArena wrote: post #590

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon's unchecked power at building a model? Or at politics? I always worry whenever I see people telling me how to feel - rage in this case. We are in a political system that is oriented more around getting people to feel rage and hatred as opposed to consensus and deliberation. Elon is the face of that, but it's a much longer and larger problem. Throw in the complete dismisal that anyone not scared of this is ignora…

Has it occurred to you that the people who feel rage fundamentally understand the situation, and you may be undereducated in this area? What do you think are the root causes of that “senseless partisan drive”? I’d suggest starting with Rick Perlman’s book “Nixonland” if you’re interested.

You're doing the exact same thing he is addressing in that statement above. He's not belittling anyone's rage, he's speaking about people who incite others to feel the rage with them. Now let's turn your question around.

Has it occurred to you that the people who feel rage fundamentally misunderstand the situation and are completely undereducated in this area, and are only fuelled by sensationalism and Media manipulation? And then I suggest you go read Dirty Politics by Kathleen Hall Jamieson if you're interested, because that's what people who want to sound more intelligent than the other half of the conversation always do.

How does it help anyone?

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by dekervin »

mrbonner wrote: post #585

Have you thought of a future where LLM will be fined tune to target advertisment to you? I mean look at search: first iterations of search were pretty simple in term of ads. Then personalized ads came. I wouldn't help but envision the distopia where the LLM will insert personalized ads based on what you are asking for help.

It's way worse than that. First, We interact with LLMs through private conversation and we are used to have private conversation with human we trust. Some of that trust will be transfered to LLMs. Second, LLMs have a vastly bigger "mental" power to build a long term mental model of us, while we interact with them. Which mean they can chose with extreme precision their words to trigger an emotion, a certain reaction.

Combine the two and the potential for manipulation, suggestion, preference altering is through the roof.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by pccole »

imgabe wrote: post #561
angusturner wrote: post #520

Credit to the engineers that built this, but it fills me with rage that Elon has this sort of unchecked power. How long before this starts getting deployed in safety critical applications or government decision making processes? With no oversight because Elon seems to have the power to dismiss the people responsible for investigating him. Anyone not scared by this concentration of power needs to pick up a book.

There is precisely zero mention of any plan to put xAI or any other LLM in any safety critical or decision making process. How long? Nobody knows because nobody is even considering it. Take your pointless fear mongering elsewhere.

This is a really bad take honestly. This guy sits next to the president. I have no doubt in my mind he will get another government contract and the government will be using Grok.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Post by imgabe »

pccole wrote: post #628
imgabe wrote: post #561

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is precisely zero mention of any plan to put xAI or any other LLM in any safety critical or decision making process. How long? Nobody knows because nobody is even considering it. Take your pointless fear mongering elsewhere.

This is a really bad take honestly. This guy sits next to the president. I have no doubt in my mind he will get another government contract and the government will be using Grok.

Oh wow you imagined something will happen and you have no doubt it will happen. Amazing. Very convincing.
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