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I remember working with Microsoft as a client in 2000-s, it was awesome. We started as a startup, and enrolled in a BizSpark program. It gave us basically free access to Microsoft tools and with very responsive support. We later transitioned into volume licensing, that also was simple and straightforward. The business side of Microsoft was a streamlined unstoppable train at that point. The technical side, not so much…
WPF is still unmatched.
Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
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> ‘embrace-extend-extinguish’ model is what it _truly_ is With this mindset, what could MS possibly create that wouldn't make you say this?
This definitely seems like an unfalsifiable proposition for the MS haters. Microsoft does something shitty? See, they're a terrible company. Microsoft does something awesome? Well, we're currently in the "embrace" or "extend", so they're a terrible company. I'm as (or more) pessimistic than the next guy about the state of tech and capitalism, but at least give credit when and where credit's due.
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> Them along absolutely everyone else. ChatGPT was an iPhone moment. Old guy here, but it feels more like a Netscape moment than an iPhone moment. We'll end up with our pets.com of the LLM age, the whole thing will implode, and the few companies that were actually doing useful stuff with LLMs will survive.
Are those moments really that different? Motorola was practically the Netscape of the iPhone era, as those early Droids were everywhere. There were tons of others too, then it all imploded with only a few companies really surviving in the smartphone space.
Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#624Also, the Acquired podcast also makes the strong argument that Ballmer lay a lot of the foundation of what powered MSFT’s growth under Nadella e.g. Azure.
Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#625This article doesn’t understand what was fundamentally wrong with Ballmer’s leadership and what Nadella actually changed. The specific technologies that were successful is irrelevant. Microsoft has and continues to invest in nearly every computer related technology that may come around the corner or they got late on. The problem with Microsoft was everything went through Windows. The entire company was designed to pr…
Lately it has definitely felt as though Microsoft is resurrecting Ballmer's old meme as "AI! AI! AI!" I was at Microsoft for the last couple years of Ballmer and the first few years of Nadella. He definitely did change the company and I remember at the time feeling that he handled the change really well, but from where I sat he spent the first part of his tenure evolving Ballmer's final push to move focus from Window…
You nailed it! Having spent significant time (as low-level minion) under both Ballmer and Satya, it certainly feels like the old Ballmer-time meme is coming back with the AI!
Also with it, the forced-curve ranking that Satya disbanded is being re-instituted under a different name.
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Chill because you all are giving me anxiety that I don't need. Idk how to tell you this, but this is a pretty common pattern for human speech. You see it in plenty of countries, plenty of cultures. Welcome to Earth. Words mean more than the literal dictionary interpretation of them. Edit: I only have sass in me tonight.
The workweek just started, you gotta save some sass for the rest of the week too.
Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#627Everyone forgetting about Lisa Brummel and "stack ranking"? That nearly ruined Microsoft... https://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft-ditches-syst...
"grading on a curve" is a good idea, and if athletics wasn't run that way, nobody would watch. that doesn't mean it's easy to implement, manage, or impossible to game, or that it plays nice wrt human factors, but to attack the core idea as essentially wrong is anti math, science, and rationality. Microsoft always suffered from rewarding egotists and political animals over people who did actual work.
All it does is make true talent not want to work with other true talent for fear they get screwed over.
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Athletics is an actual competition where the expectation is that "you win". When you hire 12 baristas are they competing to make the most coffees or is their job to handle customer's orders? If their job isn't to compete with each other then don't stack rank them. Use other metrics like #of incorrect orders or w/e and decide what you think they should've done and if they did more than that give them a bonus. If they…
> When you hire 12 baristas are they competing to make the most coffees or is their job to handle customer's orders? Both? Handling customer orders is how the sport is played, but at the same time they are competing for the most points (money) in that gameplay.
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> Now the company seems fully baked I to LLMs with everything they do chasing that Them along absolutely everyone else . ChatGPT was an iPhone moment.
I would press X to doubt just because of profitability. It’s cute that we now have image and video gen AI. Also we have now Turing test passing chat bots (Id say). But although they are very impressive, and I know lots of people who use them for various tasks, I haven’t seen a “killer app” yet. For iPhone the killer app was making calls. It was the best phone you could get. Then it had apps. It was undeniably better.…
Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#630He's underrated in the sense that a lot of CEOs of his era completely destroyed their companies, see Intel, GE, GM, Yahoo, etc and he didn't. So that's already a win, he set up the company in a decent position so that when someone with more vision takes over they'll have something to work with, even if he didn't have the talent to pull things off himself. He had a couple of wins (Azure, Office 365) along with many ma…