Artificial intelligence is losing hype

I don't care how it's called. We don't have it. I am not "confused over terminology", I want to see results and yet again they don't exist. Let's focus on results.

> In reality the whole notion of AGI->ASI auto-FOOM has been experimentally discredited

Sure. Because we actually have this super-intelligence already and we can compare with it, right? Oh wait, no we don't. So what's your point? Some people gave up and proclaimed that it can't be done? Like we haven't seen historical examples of this meaning exactly nothing, hundreds of times already.

Look, we'll never be able to talk about it before you stop confusing industry gate-keepers who learned how to talk to get VC money and obfuscate reality with, you know, the actual reality in front of us. You got duped by the investor talk and by the scientists never wanting to admit their funding might have been misplaced by being given to them, I am afraid.

Finally, nope, again and again, we don't have AGI even if I accept your definition. Show me a bot that can play chess, play StarCraft 2, organize an Amazon warehouse item movements and shipping, and coordinate a flight's touch-down with the same algorithms / core / whatever-you-want-to-call it. Same one, not different ones. One and the same.

No? No AGI then either.

> Furthermore, the very idea of ASI can’t be taken for granted. A machine that trivially solves humanity’s pressing problems makes nice sci-fi, but there is absolutely no evidence to presume such a machine could actually exist.

The people in the bronze age could have easily said "there is no evidence we would be able to haul goods while only pressing pedals and rotating a wheel". That's not an argument for anything at all, it's a short-sighted assertion that we might never progress that's only taking the present and the very near future into account. Well, cool, you don't believe it will happen. And? That's not an interesting thing to say.

Other people didn't believe we could go to the Moon. We still did. I wonder how quickly the naysayers hid under the bed after that so nobody could confront them about it. :D

But anyway. I got nothing more to say to people who believe VC talk and are hell-bent on inventing many acronyms to make sure they are never held accountable.

I for one want machines that solve humanity's problems. I know they can exist. I know nearly nobody wants to work on them because everybody is focused on the next quarter's results. All this is visible and well-understood yet people like you seem to think that this super narrow view is the best humanity can achieve.

Well, maybe it's the best you can achieve. I know people who can do more.

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.

But then, the current hype wasn't there to produce something useful, but for "serial entrepreneurs" to get investor money. They'll just move to the next hyped thing.

The knee-jerk legislation has mostly been caused by Altman's statements though. So I wouldn't call it knee-jerk, but an attempt by OpenAI to get a legally granted monopoly.

Yeah but there are other ways to think through problems, like asking other people what they think, which you can evaluate based on who they are and what they know. GPT is like getting advice from a cross-section of everyone in the world (and you don’t even know which one), which may be helpful depending on the question and the “people” answering it, but it may also be extroadinarily unhelpful, especially for very specialized tasks (and specialized tasks are where the profit is).

Like most people, I have knowledge of things very specific I know that less than a 100 people in the world know better than me, but thousands or even millions more have some poorly concieved general idea about it.

If you asked GPT to give you an answer to a question it would bias those millions, the statistically greater quantative solution, to the qualitative one. But, maybe, GPT only has a few really good indexes in its training data that it uses for its response, and then its extremely helpful because its like accidentally landing on a stackoverflow response by some crazy genius who reads all day, lives out of a van in the woods, and uses public library computers to answer queries in his spare time. But that’s sheer luck, and no more so than a regular search will get you.