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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by colonwqbang »

golergka wrote: post #411
drewda wrote: post #149

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That SF's payroll tax exemption was specifically created for Twitter: https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/twitter-will-get-pa... Here's one summary of it as of last year: > The infamous "Twitter tax break" provided by former Mayor Ed Lee to lure companies, including Twitter, to mid-Market by exempting them from a portion of their payroll taxes, had its sunset in 2019. Many argued that it did little to revitalize…

> $10 million a year in lost revenue This assumes that the company would be based on the city regardless. It's very common to see these assumptions in news articles about tax breaks, and it never makes sense.

Yes it's a thing people do. We tax oil and cigarettes and people understand it makes people not want to buy oil and cigarettes anymore. Tax something good like working in SF, people don't seem to understand it has the same effect.

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Post by thih9 »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #616
thih9 wrote: post #600

Is the constant stream of flamebait (this action and other recent changes) helpful for twitter, or part of some larger strategy? To me the service seems increasingly unreliable and unprofessional. Then again, I no longer feel like I'm the target audience. The numbers seem bad too; revenue was 22% down in 2023[1]. Also, "global active daily users of X via mobile apps had steadily declined during the year after Musk ac…

> Is the constant stream of flamebait helpful for twitter, or part of some larger strategy? I don't think much thought was put into it, but I do think there will be a gradual numbing effect among the comments as people get bored of the criticism. Maybe very gradual though. Edit: It just occurred to me that you might be referring to user posts on the platform being flamebait; my answer assumed that the action (moving…

To clarify, yes, by flamebait I meant the latter (this action and other recent changes). Added that to the original comment now.

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Post by edaemon »

burningChrome wrote: post #613
acedTrex wrote: post #501

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I don't think Twitter was the turning point. I remember his public image really starting to sour after his spat with the divers who were trying to save those boys trapped in a cave in Thailand.

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Post by choppaface »

rapatel0 wrote: post #468

I lived for about 12 months in telegraph hill (got lucky with a solid apartment). I had my wife and 1 year old son. Despite it being a really nice and affluent neighborhood, there was a weekly mugging outside my house. Any packages or items left outside were basically taken if left out for more than 1 hour. My neighbor’s car parked in front of the house was stolen, taken for a joyride and left in a random part of the…

Telegraph Hill is one of the most touristy parts of the city, hence lots of crime (especially at night). It might be pretty but you just chose poorly / naively if safety was a priority.

Raising a kid in SF is definitely tough, but places in the Sunset have yards, and there are some top-notch schools e.g. Lowell High School, UHS, Lick, etc.

A lot of tech people come from out of town and don’t take any time to adjust to the fact that SF has very distinct neighborhoods. Many will just draw high salaries and gravitate towards whatever is popular / flashy without considering the consequences.

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Post by fantasybuilder »

burningChrome wrote: post #613
acedTrex wrote: post #501

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The fact that you are getting downvoted for expressing a reasonable and well articulated opinion is an ironic confirmation of your point.

Liberalism isn't about shutting down opinions you disagree with, it's about keeping an open mind and engaging with opposing views. Demonizing Musk and downvoting any questions about this demonization is a sign of immature behavior.

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Post by shortn »

saagarjha wrote: post #561
CaliforniaKarl wrote: post #503

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The mentioned South Bay locations are xAI's Palo Alto office, and an office in Santana Row. Both locations likely have connections to Caltrain. I don't know where xAI's Palo Alto office is, but transit in the corporate Palo Alto office are generally good. If xAI is in the Stanford Research Park, you'll be taking a shuttle that runs only during commute times, and takes 15-30 minutes, depending on where exactly you get…

The Santana Row office is miserable to get to via Caltrain. You're going to want to bike or scooter and even then it's a trip on Stevens Creek/San Carlos, which is exceptionally busy at all times of day due to the two malls next to it and also it drops bike lanes for some portion of the road.

Santana Row will start charging for parking. https://www.ktvu.com/news/santana-row-is-charging-parking

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Post by saagarjha »

shortn wrote: post #626
saagarjha wrote: post #561

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The Santana Row office is miserable to get to via Caltrain. You're going to want to bike or scooter and even then it's a trip on Stevens Creek/San Carlos, which is exceptionally busy at all times of day due to the two malls next to it and also it drops bike lanes for some portion of the road.

Santana Row will start charging for parking. https://www.ktvu.com/news/santana-row-is-charging-parking

I feel like this was the case already? Maybe not for 2 hours but I do distinctly remember that when I popped into the Twitter offices for a bit I was able to park there for a few hours but after that it would charge me

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Post by [deleted] »

WheatMillington wrote: post #508
aqme28 wrote: post #346

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My first week working in a finance firm in midtown Manhattan there was a significant shooting. These things happen everywhere (edit: in the US) unfortunately. I'm not convinced that a more suburban location that forces people to drive would actually be any safer.

I have lived 39 years here in New Zealand and have never witnessed or been near a shooting. I'm not saying shootings have never happened in New Zealand, but the idea that these things "happen everywhere" is asinine.

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Post by trgn »

thatfrenchguy wrote: post #610
curiousllama wrote: post #481

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Cities' attractiveness feels u-shaped Young adults love it bc they have the time to go to bars/restaurants/clubs Middle aged folks hate it because they're so busy - they can't take advantage, and other people get in their way (some) Older folks like it again bc they have the time to go to restaurants/theater

I don't know, the residential neighborhoods of SF are the perfect place to raise a family if you make tech money: dense enough that there is a ton of stuff to do and your kid knows other kid nearby, low density enough that you get 1500-2500sqft to yourself.

turn of the century suburbs truly are goldilocks neighborhoods.

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Post by [deleted] »

WheatMillington wrote: post #508
aqme28 wrote: post #346

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My first week working in a finance firm in midtown Manhattan there was a significant shooting. These things happen everywhere (edit: in the US) unfortunately. I'm not convinced that a more suburban location that forces people to drive would actually be any safer.

I have lived 39 years here in New Zealand and have never witnessed or been near a shooting. I'm not saying shootings have never happened in New Zealand, but the idea that these things "happen everywhere" is asinine.

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