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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

It's considered to be up to the voters to pick the best candidate.

The constitution has a lower limit on the age of the president, why not an upper limit?

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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This is wild. It seems super late in the game but okay. I'm super interested to see what will become of his chips act etc. The push he has tried to do to remove dependencies on TSMC is very forward thinking. Hopefully the next candidate takes up the momentum. Edit : Typo in TSMC

He tried a to push a lot of things in the positive direction. Democrats usually do. In addition to the chips act, there's infrastructure - saw a HN comment linking to database of where the infrastructure money went; insulin cost, public transportation, electric vehicles, climate in general, student loans. He tweeted imposing 25% tax on billionaires, which ultimately became his undoing.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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> you must be younger than > the average life expectancy > (currently 73yo) - while in > office. As an aside, it's a common error to think that overall life expectancy is relevant to this sort of thing, it's not. That number includes those who die in infancy, etc. If you wanted to limit it by "life expectancy" you'd want to limit it by the statistical expected remaining years of life at the candidate's current age .…

Joe Biden is older than 80 lol I would want to limit it by social security retirement age. I don’t really know any 70 year olds who are “all there.”

> I don’t really know any 70 year olds who are “all there.”

You are almost certainly wrong, but it's also possible that your thereness measurement scale is still calibrated to the briefest and least knowledgeable period of your life.

I intend this charitably.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

> you must be younger than > the average life expectancy > (currently 73yo) - while in > office. As an aside, it's a common error to think that overall life expectancy is relevant to this sort of thing, it's not. That number includes those who die in infancy, etc. If you wanted to limit it by "life expectancy" you'd want to limit it by the statistical expected remaining years of life at the candidate's current age .…

> it's a common error to think that overall life expectancy is relevant to this sort of thing, it's not.

That’s why I purposely linked to the official US government Actuarial Table.

Biden is 81.

The statistics state that an 81yo will only live 7-more-years.

When a presidential term (4-years) is more than half of your remaining life, the margin of error to die while in office is extreme high.

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Another way to look at it is …

The min age for POTUS is 35yo.

The Actuarial Table state that a 35yo will live 40-more-years (to age 75).

Then set age 75 to be the max age

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That is a counterfactual that is pretty hard to prove. The US is a very large machine and I find it hard to believe that two wars were enabled by the presidents weak will alone.

It's illustrative to hear RFK Jr's take on what initiated the Ukraine War:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBpPPki-7Rc

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Nancy Pelosi and the Obamas have not endorsed Kamala Trading the open primary news on the prediction markets, there’s a lot of liquidity finally!

I'm wondering if the Obamas haven't because Michelle hasn't ruled out running. She has said she wouldn't but that may have been to support Biden and now that there is an opening, she may take it.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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The problem isn't just his age, it's his decrepitude, both physical and mental. I know people in their 90s who are able to speak clearly at any hour of the day...

Biden has a speech impediment, Judging him by his speech doesn't give an accurate picture of his mental fitness.

Compare him from his time as the vice president vs now. It is not even close. He has deteriorated so much in his speech. People can't even understand him which was never a problem back then.

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

> you must be younger than > the average life expectancy > (currently 73yo) - while in > office. As an aside, it's a common error to think that overall life expectancy is relevant to this sort of thing, it's not. That number includes those who die in infancy, etc. If you wanted to limit it by "life expectancy" you'd want to limit it by the statistical expected remaining years of life at the candidate's current age .…

> For example, while the overall life expectancy in the US is around 73, for an individual at age 50 it's around 80

Small but important note, you picked life expectancy for males, not all individuals. For females the life expectancy at birth is over 79 years. The average life expectancy for someone in the US without specifying their sex at birth is north of 76 years. And life expectancy is trending upwards and has for a long time as we eliminate more early mortalities.

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