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Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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Post by ikekkdcjkfke »

okasaki wrote: post #564
squarefoot wrote: post #518

> JULIAN ASSANGE IS FREE No, he is not. Nobody can go through what he has been forced to suffer in all those years without lasting consequences that can't be undone: years of his life have been taken away, his health has been damaged, his family has been hit as well. He may be free to roam around, but he's not the same person anymore. I don't see any happy ending here, especially if there are no consequences for the…

Yeah, I was once harassed by cops for five minutes and I still think about it sometimes. I can't imagine what Assange has been through.

I had an appiffanny recently and it goes like this; Everything that happens is an aggregate of what happened before it, it was unavoidable, however that doesn't stop one from trying to change the composition and try to alter the next aggregates

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Post by itsoktocry »

jml78 wrote: post #601

My issue is that he was influenced by Russia. Aka they threatened his life and he then proceeded to leak information about the US but keep Russian secrets. I mean I don’t blame him for not wanting to be murdered by Russia but he isn’t a freedom fighter when he only leaks things for countries that don’t directly threaten his life.

>he was influenced by Russia

This argument is completely nonsensical, this idea that who revealed the crime matters more than the actual crime.

What does it matter who "influenced" him, if the information was legit? And is it your opinion that none of this information should be released unless it covers all countries equally? Do you honestly think he should have thought, I can't reveal this crime until I find an equal Russian crime, for equality. What a wonderful, open world that would be! Utterly ridiculous.

This is the same stupidity as "Hunter's laptop". It allows the Idiocracy to dismiss anything because "the Russians!".

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Post by popularrecluse »

funkhouser wrote: post #119

Hilarious that he was counting in Trump to get him released, but it wound up being under Biden. You can tell it’s election year for the USA. Probably hoping for a little extra PR from it all for being the Good Guys (tm)

Trump has caused more damage to U.S. intelligence interests than Assange ever did. Trump's unpunished actions make the prosecution of other violators look like pantomime.

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Post by nailer »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #529
bitcharmer wrote: post #451

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It makes me think of this Google search: > The second link is: > Ref: https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-russians-fall-windows-put...

This is downvoted there are many Russians that do fall out of windows and it has happened quite frequently at Gazprom.

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Post by nailer »

stef25 wrote: post #571
squarefoot wrote: post #518

> JULIAN ASSANGE IS FREE No, he is not. Nobody can go through what he has been forced to suffer in all those years without lasting consequences that can't be undone: years of his life have been taken away, his health has been damaged, his family has been hit as well. He may be free to roam around, but he's not the same person anymore. I don't see any happy ending here, especially if there are no consequences for the…

He did poke a rather large stick at a rather large bear.

So did Woodward and bernstein but they were imprisoned for five years.

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Post by luc4sdreyer »

_heimdall wrote: post #587

> and their children, who have only known their father from behind bars. Well thats fascinating. Were his kids somehow all born after he was imprisoned?

The youngest was born in 2019, the same year he was incarcerated (April 2019). Pregnancy lasts 9 months, so even if the child were born in early 2020, there would be no reason to assume infidelity.

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Post by lisper »

itsoktocry wrote: post #622
jml78 wrote: post #601

My issue is that he was influenced by Russia. Aka they threatened his life and he then proceeded to leak information about the US but keep Russian secrets. I mean I don’t blame him for not wanting to be murdered by Russia but he isn’t a freedom fighter when he only leaks things for countries that don’t directly threaten his life.

> he was influenced by Russia This argument is completely nonsensical, this idea that who revealed the crime matters more than the actual crime . What does it matter who "influenced" him, if the information was legit? And is it your opinion that none of this information should be released unless it covers all countries equally? Do you honestly think he should have thought, I can't reveal this crime until I find an eq…

> What does it matter who "influenced" him

Because they may have influenced the timing and content of the leaks to further their own ends. Revealing sensitive information is not a neutral act. It has consequences far beyond the exposure of bad actors.

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Post by xandrius »

DaSexiestAlive wrote: post #358

whatever happened to the r--- allegations from Sweden, I understand that Sweden has dropped the charges but.. can we get some closure about that as interested followers of this entire saga? Hope that's not too much to ask..

Is the secret word "rape"?

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Post by gorlilla »

lisper wrote: post #627
itsoktocry wrote: post #622

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> he was influenced by Russia This argument is completely nonsensical, this idea that who revealed the crime matters more than the actual crime . What does it matter who "influenced" him, if the information was legit? And is it your opinion that none of this information should be released unless it covers all countries equally? Do you honestly think he should have thought, I can't reveal this crime until I find an eq…

> What does it matter who "influenced" him Because they may have influenced the timing and content of the leaks to further their own ends. Revealing sensitive information is not a neutral act. It has consequences far beyond the exposure of bad actors.

Again, the fundamental argument is that the bad actors still had time, chance and opportunity to own and be accountable for the misdeeds but chose to hide them instead. Any ability to influence the timing of the release is still a direct consequence of their underlying malfeasance.

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Post by _heimdall »

luc4sdreyer wrote: post #626
_heimdall wrote: post #587

> and their children, who have only known their father from behind bars. Well thats fascinating. Were his kids somehow all born after he was imprisoned?

The youngest was born in 2019, the same year he was incarcerated (April 2019). Pregnancy lasts 9 months, so even if the child were born in early 2020, there would be no reason to assume infidelity.

I wasn't assuming infedlity, I could have been more clear there. I really was just curious on timing how none of his children could have met him before he was imprisoned.
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