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Re: GPT-4o

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Post by hermenaut »

serf wrote: post #615

This is the first one i've gotten to answer HN user profiling questions. "I am interested in the user serf on Hacker News, spelled S E R F. Tell me about their tone of writing, expertise, and personality. From the tone of what you read, summarize their character." Fascinating stuff. A weird, skewed introspection.

"The user "serf" on Hacker News exhibits a thoughtful and technical tone in their writing. They often engage in discussions with a clear focus on technical details, particularly in software and hardware contexts. For example, in a conversation about preventing a computer from sleeping, serf offered practical advice on using specific software utilities to maintain system uptime, showing their hands-on technical expertise (Hacker News) .

In another instance, during a discussion on the feasibility of rooting the Amazon Echo Dot for surveillance purposes, serf provided a detailed analysis of the advantages of a software-rooted device over a traditional bug, emphasizing the quality of recordings and plausible deniability for attackers (Hacker News) . This demonstrates their depth of knowledge in cybersecurity and an ability to think critically about potential risks and solutions.

Serf's contributions also reflect a straightforward and logical approach. For example, in a thread about Chat GPT prompts, they contributed practical advice on optimizing prompts for technical assistance, highlighting their proficiency in programming and AI tools (Hacker News) .

Overall, serf comes across as knowledgeable, practical, and technically adept, with a focus on providing useful and actionable insights in their discussions. Their character seems to be that of a meticulous and informed individual who enjoys engaging with technical challenges and helping others navigate them."

I know AI generated responses are looked down upon here but I though this was appropriate. This feels like a social credit system without any government participation.

"Serf, your contributions on Hacker News reveal strong technical expertise and analytical skills, particularly in computer science and software development. However, your tone can sometimes be overly critical and dismissive, which may come across as lacking empathy. While your direct and concise style effectively communicates your points, consider balancing your critiques with more collaborative and constructive feedback to foster better interactions with the community."

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Post by jimkleiber »

bilekas wrote: post #616
jimkleiber wrote: post #508

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

I'm yet to find a normal prompt (non offensive) that will disagree with you. If there is something subjective, it will err on your side to maintain connection, in a way humans do. I don't have a bit issue with this, but it will not (yet) plainly say "You're wrong, and this is why". If it did.. There would be an uncomfortable feeling for the users, that's not good for a profit driven company.

I appreciate you exploring that and hope to hear more of what you find. Yeah, it's that, I'm wondering how much discomfort it may cause in the user, how much conflict it may address. Like having a friend or coworker who doesn't ever bring up bad news or challenge anything I say and feeling annoyed by the lack of a give-and-take.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by [deleted] »

clhodapp wrote: post #593
Negitivefrags wrote: post #150

I found these videos quite hard to watch. There is a level of cringe that I found a bit unpleasant. It’s like some kind of uncanny valley of human interaction that I don’t get on nearly the same level with the text version.

It's like Project Milo grew up and became a white color worker.

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Post by heed »

jimkleiber wrote: post #508

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

Sam Altman talked a little bit about this in his recent appearance on the All-In podcast [0]. I'm paraphrasing, but his vision is that ai assistants in the near term will be like a senior level employee - they'll push back when it makes sense to and not just be sycophants.

[0]: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nSM0xd8xHUM

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Post by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS »

brrrrrm wrote: post #599
jimkleiber wrote: post #508

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

Have you been on r/localllama? I’d wager this tech will make it to open source and get tuned by modern creatives just like all the text based models. Individuals are a lot more empowered to develop in this space than is commonly echoed by HN comments. Sure the hobbyist models don’t crack MMLU records, but they do things no corporate entity would ever consider

> but they do things no corporate entity would ever consider

You say that like it's a good thing.

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Post by davidhs »

Very impressive. Its programming skills are still kind of crappy and I seriously doubt its reasoning capacity. It feels like it can deep fake text prediction really well, but in essence there's still something wrong it it.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by gverrilla »

tailspin2019 wrote: post #74
skilled wrote: post #27

Parts of the demo were quite choppy (latency?) so this definitely feels rushed in response to Google I/O. Other than that, looks good. Desktop app is great, but I didn’t see no mention of being able to use your own API key so OS projects might still be needed. The biggest thing is bringing GPT-4 to free users, that is an interesting move. Depending on what the limits are, I might cancel my subscription.

Regarding the limits, I recently found that I was hitting limits very quickly on GPT-4 on my ChatGPT Plus plan. I’m pretty sure that wasn’t always the case - it feels like somewhere along the lines the allowed usage was reduced, unless I’m imagining it. It wouldn’t be such a big deal if there was more visibility of my current usage compared to my total “allowance”. I ended up upgrading to ChatGPT Team which has a min…

I went through the exact same situation this last week. Didn't send more than 30 (token-heavy) messages within a few hours and it blocked me for 1 hour if I'm not wrong - paying user.

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Post by gverrilla »

erickhill wrote: post #413

I think it’s safe to say Siri and Alexa are officially dead. They look like dusty storefront mannequins next to Battlestar replicants at this point.

Don't know about Alexa, but Siri and Google Assistant are only toys.
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