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Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Subaru finally made an EV (the Solterra). I love the way it drives, but it's more expensive (at least at my dealer) than an entry level Tesla. I'd trust Subaru way more than Tesla though.

The Solterra is actually manufactured by Toyota https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_bZ4X

But it's jointly developed by both Toyota and Subaru (similar to how they did the Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_86):

https://ts2.space/en/is-solterra-toyota-or-subaru/#gsc.tab=0

https://www.torquenews.com/1084/why-subaru-takes-credit-new-...

And Subaru might pull away from that partnership after early models had wheels falling off:

https://www.torquenews.com/1084/why-it-s-smart-subaru-pull-a...

It's all kinda incestuous anyway. Toyota owns 20% of Subaru already: https://www.torquenews.com/1084/subaru-officially-joins-toyo...

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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FWIW, the computers don’t tend to break. The things that do break are essentially the same as they were 20 years ago. The bells and whistles are mostly for creatures comfort. The mechanical components haven’t changed much. The only thing that I couldn’t fix on my own in my 2020 vs my 2006 was re-alignment of lane keep system after replacing the windshield.

The littany of sensors begin to go bad after 6-7 years in many newer cars.

Which sensors?

All of the important sensors have been in cars for years and years at this point.

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Maybe I don't understand something but where is Renault? It's not even mentioned AFAICT.

Also, VW data does not encompass Golf, which seems to me to be by far the most sold VW car in Europe (based on what I see on the streets, not actual data). Seems a bit strange to omit these.

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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FWIW, the computers don’t tend to break. The things that do break are essentially the same as they were 20 years ago. The bells and whistles are mostly for creatures comfort. The mechanical components haven’t changed much. The only thing that I couldn’t fix on my own in my 2020 vs my 2006 was re-alignment of lane keep system after replacing the windshield.

My 2015 Dodge RAM with a failed ECU begs to differ. Wouldn't be so bad except replacements aren't expected to be available until April 2024.

But, that's not unique to a "computer loaded car". ECU's have been a standard component for decades.

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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It's a US thing, pedestrian safety continued to improve in France (mainly caused by infrastructure improvements), but we are starting to have the same sized cars, with the same issues)

I've always understood the US's giant car problem was an unintended consequence of the CAFE fuel efficiency legislation, why is Europe getting caught up in the giant car fad? I'd imagine that'd be much more obvious of a terrible idea when the streets are half the size.

> why is Europe getting caught up in the giant car fad?

Because wankers gonna wank.

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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> car safety has drastically improved Safety between cars, and within cars, has improved. However, due to the increasing size of the average vehicle on the road, among other factors, car safety for pedestrians/cyclists has decreased. https://www.npr.org/2023/06/26/1184034017/us-pedestrian-deat...

People drive horrible now. Running lights, crazy lane changes, excessive speeding etc. Here in the US is started during the pandemic and hasn’t improved.

people always drove horribly.

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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I have a 2012 Honda Fit that they will need to pry off my cold dead hands. It's my favorite car of all time, it's everything that I want from a car. Except possibly a larger gas tank.

I have a 2009 Honda Fit and feel the same way. 181k miles and still working perfectly!

You and me both, Fit Fiend!

We had to do something with the spark coils/plugs last year, but other than that, no repairs except routine maintainance (tires, oil, filters etc).

Amazing vehicle, very sad that Honda initially talked about an EV version and then pivoted to "no more Fit in North America"

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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A reliable soulless Mazda sounds like a 6 sedan. Larger and weightier than the engine can handle, but otherwise a solid car.

Bingo. Honestly the engine handles the load just fine. It's not nearly as fast as the tiny 5-speed Ford focus I had before, but I wouldn't say it's slow either. It's fine, and nothing more.

What engine do you have? A lot that I see for sale have 165bhp engines, which doesn’t sound under powered. Compare that with a lot of newer cars which have 1L 100bhp engines

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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People drive horrible now. Running lights, crazy lane changes, excessive speeding etc. Here in the US is started during the pandemic and hasn’t improved.

Replacing old style headlight bulbs with LEDs in housings not designed for them is an increasing problem too, making driving at night often something that is best done with a pair of sunglasses.

I would pay for some moon glasses just for this, don't need to be as dark as sun glasses but something you can grab in an emergency with the super brights where the owner didn't know (or didn't care) to adjust the angle of the headlights to something sane. I'ver had to literally grab my rearview at times and angle it completely and the shit was still reflecting partially on the window and chrome components in my car annoyingly
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