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Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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If you want to be a doomer, you don't need agi, just autonomous weapons, which ML can definitely help build.

You don’t even need ML for that plus it already exists, Soviets had Dead Hand decades ago, an autonomous weapon system capable of ending the world.

Autononous weapons capable of ending the world are old, yes. Autonomous weapons capable of securing territory and resources, and personnel, that's on the way.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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"like" or "hate" are words for people and petty personal conflicts. It's counterproductive to take business conflicts personally. PG removed Sam Altman silently without harming his future. There is no reason to be enemies after the issue is solved. There may be deals to be made again.

> It's counterproductive to take business conflicts personally. 100% agree with this, but it is productive to understand what was behind a business conflict. Personal like or dislike can change which alternative of a choice of equal alternatives, someone might make. As Tony Soprano would say, "It's just business."

Your comments are great but your audience is inexperienced. Most of our experience is largely in pointless, online arguments and few serious real-life struggles. The latter scares the hell out of us so we run from the conflict and from our feelings. Then we say we "didn't take it personally" to cover up the cowardice.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Why did he sign the letter and post: >I deeply regret my participation in the board's actions. I never intended to harm OpenAI. I love everything we've built together and I will do everything I can to reunite the company.

This is why, the WSJ says: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/openai-s-path-ahea... "One surprise signee was Ilya Sutskever, the company’s chief scientist and one of the members of the four-person board that voted to oust Altman. On Monday morning, Sutskever said he deeply regretted his participation in the board’s action. “I will do everything I can to reunite the company,” he posted on X. Sutskever flipped h…

This is such a clown show. If instead Helen Toner had cried harder in Sutskever face than the outcome would have been different?

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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> Putin is the best in the world to deal with the situation he’s in right now, if you need a negative angle on this. Probably not true? It seems like Russia could use another Yeltsin (or Gorbachev) more than Putin for its current situation.

> It seems like Russia could use another Yeltsin (or Gorbachev) more than Putin for its current situation. He did say best in the world , not best that can be imagined ; so unless you are saying there is another Yeltsin or Gorbachev available ... OTOH, Putin is himself an active reason why alternatives aren't readily available.

I think there are plenty of Russians alive who could do a better job than Putin. Possibly most of them. One of their defining advantages would be that they are not Putin and can renounce his actions.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Why are you lying to protect sama’s reputation? Worldcoin stores the biometric data for opt-in users. They say it themselves. It’s stored “encrypted” which means the original data is retrievable, and kept in Worldcoin’s custody. All Worldcoin claims is that it has safeguards against retrieving the data it does collect and store, like say Equifax or 23andme claim about your PII.

> It’s stored “encrypted” which means the original data is retrievable That does not follow. It's true if you're using technical terms correctly, but I've absolutely seen companies use encrypted to mean hashed.

You can read Worldcoins info yourself, they’re talking about reversible encryption. Thank you for your input.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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It's oh so weird the article does not mention any of these though... - https://twitter.com/phuckfilosophy/status/163570439893983232... (SA's sister - also have a look at her recent posts) - Also: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman... (utterly distressing) - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1727096607752282485 (check the comment with snapshots of the letter - "strangely" that Gist was dele…

that can't be true- why would sam altman and the rest of their family deny annie altman's inheritance? it's not like they need the money themselves either this annie character is making stuff up, or the whole rest of her family are some kind of comic book villains

I could imagine that if they think she's behaving erratically, and would spend the money on falling apart even more, then they don't think it's right to give it to her.

For example if they know she has a drug problem and would put herself in an early grave if she received millions of dollars (just theorizing, I don't know anything about their situation).

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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I predict his character arch will be similar to Adam Neumann and Travis Kalanick - first the media gushes over him and praises him as a genius. Then the media starts to question him. Then they start to fully dig in and dig up a ton of dirt. With no mainstream outlet pushing forth the allegations his sister is claiming on social, I imagine right now they are looking under every rock on that end. I respect his hustle b…

Sam isn't charismatic in the classic showman way. He has nerd appeal but he isn't magically persuasive. He just seems very "focused" so his claims feel believable.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #42

If Paul Graham fired Sam Altman from YCombinator it's interesting that he appears to have such a favourable opinion of him [0]. However, personally, what I've taken away from this is that he is a much better strategic/tactical operator than many other high-flying executives and very capable of winning the respect and trust of a lot of smart people. I wouldn't expect OpenAI to be run by anybody that wasn't revered in…

Fascinating! It feels like a Sixth Sense moment where, as I go back and look at these, many can be interpreted a whole different way.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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There are different sets of concerns governing police accountability, transparency, etc., from those governing various different types of corporations, and rightly so.

It makes sense. It's not like corporations have responsibilities that can have life & death impacts on people, or that can radically transform the lives of people who don't even work there. Oh wait...

The glibness of this superficial comparison doesn't change the fact that anyone who actually thought seriously about crafting laws to deal with both of those would find themselves dealing with very different scenarios, both from a practical and moral/philosophical perspective.

But of course, if one just wants to say snide things on the internet, yeah they're simply the same in every major respect, why bother thinking that hard about it.

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