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Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce where the board would resign and he and Brockman would return. The deadline has passed and mass resignations expected if a deal isn’t reached ASAP https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1726055095341875545

"Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, must be sacked."

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Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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This makes no sense. People are calling what the board did a coup, but Altman is trying (failing?) to stage a coup. The board was Altmans boss - this is pretty much their only job. Altman knew this and most likely ignored any questions or concerns of theirs thinking he is the unfireable superstar Imagine if your boss fired you - and your response was - I’ll come back if you quit! Yeah, no. People might confuse status…

>People are calling what the board did a coup, but Altman is trying (failing?) to stage a coup. The board removed the board's chairman and fired the CEO. That's why it was called a coup. >The shareholders can fire the board, but that’s not what he’s asking for. And so far we haven’t heard anything about them getting fired nonprofits don't have shareholders (or shares).

Then the board essentially owns the company, if I understand your comment correctly. So it’s like if Yann LeCun says he’ll come back to Meta once Zuck sells all his shares

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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This makes no sense. People are calling what the board did a coup, but Altman is trying (failing?) to stage a coup. The board was Altmans boss - this is pretty much their only job. Altman knew this and most likely ignored any questions or concerns of theirs thinking he is the unfireable superstar Imagine if your boss fired you - and your response was - I’ll come back if you quit! Yeah, no. People might confuse status…

Doesn’t have to make sense if it’s about this much money to be made/lost by investors.

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce where the board would resign and he and Brockman would return. The deadline has passed and mass resignations expected if a deal isn’t reached ASAP https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1726055095341875545

Mass resignations from whom, I wonder. Other researchers?

Presumably a significant amount of OpenAI employees are motivated by money, at least in some form.

The board just vaporised the tender offer, and likely much of their valuation. It’s hard to have confidence in that.

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> A competent board should have asked for legal and professional advice... I will bite. How do you know they didn't?

>house collapses in 15mph wind Why didn’t they hire a competent builder? You: >how do you know they weren’t? It could be pure happenstance! All the nails could… could have been defective! Or something! waves hands

Enron had independent auditors and a law firm approving what they did.

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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If the reports are true, and Ilya led the coup, then either him or Sam can be at OpenAI going forward but not both. The rest of the board members who sided with him are gone either way. Regardless of who ends up at the helm, OpenAI is going to be a different place on Monday than it was on Thursday, and not for the better.

Not for the better why? Obviously Sam wasn’t the best fit for OpenAI and investors aren’t even saying what the problem is. Clearly the board feels he was the wrong person for the job. I think it’s ridiculous that everything thinks that Sam being outed means OpenAI is in trouble. Let this play out and see how it evolves

Perhaps part of the problem is that when some people say OpenAI they mean the non-profit parent of the for-profit, and when other people say OpenAI they mean the for-profit subsidiary of the non-profit.

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce where the board would resign and he and Brockman would return. The deadline has passed and mass resignations expected if a deal isn’t reached ASAP https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1726055095341875545

Curious to see if turning something off and back on will work out for the OpenAI board like it does in IT generally.

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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This makes no sense. People are calling what the board did a coup, but Altman is trying (failing?) to stage a coup. The board was Altmans boss - this is pretty much their only job. Altman knew this and most likely ignored any questions or concerns of theirs thinking he is the unfireable superstar Imagine if your boss fired you - and your response was - I’ll come back if you quit! Yeah, no. People might confuse status…

I think the allure for Altman though would be that OpenAI already has all the pieces in place.

Going off and starting his own thing would be great, but it would be at least a year to get product out, even if he had all the same players making it. And that's just to catch up to current tech

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