Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

Post by dontlaugh » Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 11:31 AM UTC

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That's interesting! I wonder why the phone didn't automatically deregister when I disabled RCS, or why there wasn't at least an informative popup telling me this was necessary.

That's the dumb thing. When you disable RCS on your phone, why doesn't the phone just send that same API call that gets called when you visit that web page and deregister? (Ditto for Apple, if that's still an issue over there with iMessage as well.)

Post by dontlaugh » Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 11:42 AM UTC

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Apple only has dominant marketshare in the US. Everywhere else in the world people use Whatsapp. Why didn't they all hop on the RCS train? Because it sucks to implement and is a black box to use. Google was stuck with SMS because of their inability to implement a cohesive messaging app, despite owning and distributing an operating system. So what did they do? Pitched sob stories and got the europeans to threaten to r…

> Apple only has dominant marketshare in the US. Japan: 65.88% Denmark: 64.04% Norway: 61.94% Canada: 57.84% Australia: 57.47% United States: 56.74% Switzerland: 55.92% Sweden: 55.33% United Kingdom: 51.63% Taiwan: 51.32% from: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/iphone-ma...

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 11:49 AM UTC

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The green predates the existence of iMessage . That green is the color that was used from the beginning of the iPhone in 2007; iMessage was only added in 2011. iMessage was given a different color than the preexisting one. Trying to claim that Apple picked an "ugly color to make you feel uncomfortable" is simply false.

iOS 4 : https://i.imgur.com/3LIpvX9.png iOS 5 (introduction of iMessage) : https://i.imgur.com/v2Wths4.png iOS 7: https://i.imgur.com/7k8QL3z.png Yes, it was green before, but it didn't look so vile. Since the redesign of iOS in 7 the difference of green vs blue is a difference in legibility.

Post by meyum33 » Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 11:57 AM UTC

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This is why I don't buy Google's bad faith shaming of Apple for not adopting RCS. The current version of it that people are using on Android isn't even a "standard" by any normal usage of the term, it's just another Google messaging service. No one can make their own app, and there's barely any carrier adoption, so Google is basically running the whole network. Does this mean that now if you send a message to someone…

That's the trap door in this. Apple is going to implement RCS exactly as the specification says it should be implemented, no more or no less. Any incompatibilities with Android will be laid at Google's door to resolve. Having beaten Apple with the RCS stick for the last year, Google might find themselves now getting beaten back.

Post by porkbeer » Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 12:32 PM UTC

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In theory, E2EE is good until someone you are messaging turns on iCloud backup of messages you sent and now law enforcement can force Apple to give them your iCloud backup - with iMessage

This is just me but I’m less bothered by Big Brother than I am by little brother. I don’t worry (very much) that law enforcement will read my messages but I do worry that advertisers, insurance cartels, spam marketeers, bookmakers or price gougers will.