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way better explanation than the website copy "no cables no assembly just cloud" wtf is that
Obviously different marketing copy speaks to different people. But that is referring to how, when you buy a rack from us, you don't need to put everything together and cable it all up: you pull it out of the box, plug in networking and power, boot the thing up, and you're good to go. Installation time is hours, not days or weeks, which is the norm.
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100%. I’m actually extremely impressed. I want one. I haven’t worked in a data center in years, but I’d be tempted to do it again just to get my hands on one.
I wish they’d sell a tabletop version for hobbyists, but realize this is probably a distraction. But… the problem with a lot of these systems (including the old Sun boxes and things like ibm mainframes and the AS/400) is that they sound cool but there’s no real way for the typical new developer to “get into them” for fun and, as a result, you lose the chance for some developer selling it to their company based on his…
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Coupling vs Decoupling is not some one-sided thing. It's a major trade-off. One of the most obvious examples of the problem with this approach is that they're shipping previous generation servers on Day 1. One can easily buy current generation AMD servers from a number of vendors. They will also likely charge a significant premium over decoupled vendors that are forced to compete head-to-head for a specific role (ser…
> They will also likely charge a significant premium over decoupled vendors It seems like they're trying to hit a middle ground between cloud vendors and fully decoupled server equipment companies. Using Oxide is likely cheaper over the life of the hardware than using a cloud vendor. A company who already has in-house expertise on running racks of systems may be less the target market here than people who want to do…
True, but Oxide may find themselves competing against Dell or HP if they adopt Oxides software for their respective servers. Additionally, Oxide may find itself competing against consultants and vendors in specialized verticals (e.g. core Banking software + Oracle DB + COTS servers + Oxide software). Oxide, and their competitors are going for people who used to buy racks of Sun hardware.
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> They sell servers, but as a finished product. They sell rack-as-compute.[0] Their minimum order is one rack: You plug in power and network, connect to the built-in management software (API), and start spinning up VMs. [0] With built-in networking and storage.
It would be interesting to sell a data center in a container. Cooling, power supply, compute, storage, and network, all in a box. You supply power, a big network pipe, and the piping to external heat exchangers.
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#625Oh. I get what this is. It's a "cloud" mainframe. They're trying to be the Apple of mainframes. Reinvent OpenStack, slap it on some 8Us and storage arrays, shove it in a rack, and ship it to a colo with a professional installer. So basically one of the larger server vendors but with integrated "cloud" software, minus the 2-hour service turnaround and spare parts. The fact that they're writing the software from scratc…
> slap it on some 8Us and storage arrays, This does not accurately represent the amount of hardware design we have done, let alone the software work. > The fact that they're writing the software from scratch is going to add years of lead time What lead time are you referring to?
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Ah yeah, so the "facilities" section of https://oxide.computer/product/specifications has some of these things, probably the closest we have to publicly publishing that in a general sense.
Yes I understand, but will your included service actually verify that everything is set up correctly, meets advertised parameters, and sign off on it? (Such that the customer can start using it immediately afterwards.) Or does the customer need to take on some risk and hazard associated with installation, configuration, initial boot up, etc.? e.g. If someone buys with the intention of using it up to X FLOPS, and the…
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#627How do you think this will affect companies building single-tenant apps? I can imagine SaaS businesses offering their product as a "box": making on-prem significantly easier. Deliver your software along with the hardware, hook it into their network. Done. Anyone with more experience have thoughts on if this will potentially become a common option for SaaS?
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Have they basically done for the data centre what iMac did for computers in about year 1999 (or whenever!)
> what iMac did for computers in about year 1999 Ehrm. What is that exactly? Are you alluding to cute design, different user interface? Or ditching then common PC component modularity? "Thinking differently"? One difference is that Oxide development was done in the open and they don't seem hell bent on creating a closed ecosystem. (Yet, at least)
The first iMac famously made it easy to connect to the Internet; The 'i' in iMac was for "Internet". Its setup manual was a couple of pages long, mostly pictures and IIRC, just 37 words.
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Damn that's insane. As someone from Europe these salaries are just extreme. If ya'll are looking for a remote security engineer from Europe hit me up. :) For those numbers I'll walk the servers into the customers myself.
Salary is that high in the US because we have no social net or price caps here. Your on your own for everything. Healthcare, retirement, overpriced homes, out of control rent, etc
homes, etc is true though and we just need to build more inventory IMO. but there are tons of areas with affordable homes, they just aren't near the big cities like NYC or SF or LA
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#630> Everyone at Oxide makes $201,227 USD, regardless of location. Man I would love to work for a company like that. I don't know why more people don't set their startups like that.