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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by kaba0 »

epolanski wrote: post #442
bruceb wrote: post #389

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Math doesn't work. Entry iphone 15 pro is $1,000. Say Tax is .08, so $1,080 out the door. 1 year from now if you sell it for 2/3 the price, you get back $720. A year's use cost you $360. About $1 a day. This is very worth it for some but not quite as cheap as $200 a year. This is without factoring in time to sell. You could trade in but that means you are locked in contract with service provider.

That seems still high to me. I have a Xiaomi 10 or something I bought in 2020 I paid 279$ for, almost 4 years later it comes at 0.18 and I see like 0 reasons to upgrade. I admit I'm not the most social (media) person out there, I'm not into connecting my phone into every other device on this planet (as Apple people consistently remind how easily they interoperate their devices), but it does everything great: camera,…

My whole point was that you can actually get the latest, best phone for this price.

Alternatively, you could buy a second-hand iphone 11/12 pro and use it for 5-6 years easily, with proper software support. That’s what I do, and don’t yet plan on updating - maybe the iphone 16 would be worthy for me.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by kaba0 »

jonplackett wrote: post #387
kaba0 wrote: post #275

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> And then Apple made their OS more heavy weight every year until my phone slowed to a crawl. I mean, it is a bit unfair against Apple - some of the reason behind the OS getting more heavyweight is actually backporting new features in 7 year’s distance, many which actually has dedicated hardware in case of the more modern lineup. Also, there is a big aspect which is independent of Apple: every app is getting more and…

If Apple just let people hang out on the last nicely-working version of iOS, where their camera still opens fast, then that’d be fine. But they don’t. They bully you into always being on the latest Also, I remember a while back they did a specific optimised speed-up release of iOS with barely any new features and it _really_ worked. My iPhone 6S went from being basically garbage I was going to replace to like a brand…

It’s just temporary - after you install a new update, every cache has to be regenerated in the background, so for a few days/week it will have a shitton of background tasks running.

Also, ios 17 likely is a bit buggy - I’m on 17.1 beta with a 12 pro max and I can say that the performance is back to how it used to be.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by kaba0 »

soulofmischief wrote: post #544
kaba0 wrote: post #275

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> And then Apple made their OS more heavy weight every year until my phone slowed to a crawl. I mean, it is a bit unfair against Apple - some of the reason behind the OS getting more heavyweight is actually backporting new features in 7 year’s distance, many which actually has dedicated hardware in case of the more modern lineup. Also, there is a big aspect which is independent of Apple: every app is getting more and…

No, it's not unfair at all. Apple's gotten busted for this exact thing and had to shell out $500 million in damages. https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apple-to-start-paying-out-5... > I really have a hard time with a realistic business model that would be significantly better. Well this one might be good for business, but as you can see, it is extremely bad for the individual.

I have refuted that article like 1000 times already, if I ever see it again..

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by wg0 »

kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

And - price is ridiculously high. $1000+ for what? I don't know about others but my phone camera is only used for scanning QR codes rarely or taking occasional pictures of family (not a picture every hour) which even lower range phones (300 USD or so) do damn decent given it's not dark.

My 98% of the usage is to read something. Some website, email or ebook. Why do I need 120 Hz display for that? Gaming? That's always going to be inferior to even a console let alone a gaming PC.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by deprecative »

nsriv wrote: post #333
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #231

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Seems to me to be a holdover from 2020. Interesting that Google assumed we'd still be measuring temps at this point.

This was my first thought as well. Curious to see if it functions similarly or within a certain tolerance of one of those much more expensive FLIR temp gauges you see laptop reviewers use. MKBHD video showed that it asks for 5cm distance from object being measured and for you to tap to select type of material, which notably excludes skin temp.

It may exclude skin temperature but during the keynote they mentioned working the FDA to allow it to be used on skin.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by blackoil »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #192
kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

It's funny because if they did not release a new phone every year, the old phones would be useful for longer. I recently had to replace my iPhone 7s plus because it was getting so slow I sometimes could not get the camera to open as it loaded the system down too much. This was despite the fact that the system said my battery was not degraded (it had been replaced with Apple Care a couple of times). Of course when it…

How real are the security risks? My wife is using Oneplus 5t about 6 years old. It doesn't feel slow, cam may not be greatest, but pretty good. Battery life is one day with mild usage. It is stuck on Android 10, but play services and apps are updated.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by blackoil »

TylerE wrote: post #489
admax88qqq wrote: post #485

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That's honestly not a good user experience. Having to buy a new sd card routinely, and better hope you system can detect impending as card failures accurately. Compared to 5 years of good on board storage performance, with no little bits to accidentally lose. And a gradually degradation of performance after that. They could possibly design a phone the way you outlined, but people won't buy it.

Not to mention what it’ll do the waterproof rating.

We had regular Samsung phones with waterproofing, all ports and replaceable battery. It is a myth that only sealed phones can be waterproof.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by kaba0 »

Barrin92 wrote: post #391
sanswork wrote: post #376

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People have been saying this literally since the release of the pentium and probably earlier. From where I'm sitting software is millions of times better today than it was in the 90s when I first started hearing people saying this(usually complaining about developers using C++ instead of assembly). Even just on the iphone the improvements in software have been dramatic over the past 10 years. Go install one of the ea…

> From where I'm sitting software is millions of times better today than it was in the 90s I feel compelled to bring up this tweet from John Carmack I just saw a few hours ago. The most popular editor on the planet feels laggier than stuff Borland made in the 90s, on hardware probably a thousand times as fast. I don't know how anyone can say software is great with a straight face. We have supercomputers in our pocket…

In the meanwhile, I know plenty of my friends happily daily driving an iphone 8, a 6 years old device.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by em3rgent0rdr »

kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

Landline phones, for comparison, were bought once and lasted ~30 years.
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