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I wish GPT4 had never happened

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Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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AI will probably be the initiator for universal basic income to become widespread, at least in rich countries like the EU etc.

Poor countries will most likely follow suit, but it will take a while.

The end result, hopefully, will be a world where AI is a true benefit for the world population, but it will require a change in mindset.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

#622

Funny thing - I've been using ChatGPT as a programming assistant. My experience with it is that the more knowledgeable I am at the domain, the more useful it is. It often generates code that won't compile or won't run correctly, but that sort of goes in the correct direction, enough that I can spot the blunders and refine my questions. Quite often I even learn a few new things when using it to explore libraries and f…

It's not bad for something that's pretty new. Now imagine what another decade or two of development will give us. The number of areas in which a typical worker is more knowledgeable is going to get lower and lower.

lol research with LLM is not new. It just became useful for a wider audience recently

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

#623

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> I mean I think that's with every system a problem. Not just ours. This doesn't mean that different economic systems have equivalent or comparable problems. Just like you can have a worse economic system than today's global capitalism, you could, in principle, have better systems.

Capitalism is not an economic system, it is a description of fundamental economics. Countries can have a highly regulated form of capitalism where trade and ownership is strictly controlled… and they’re often called socialist or communist, or a laissez faire system. However, so long as people are using land, buildings structures, designing equipment… the laws of capitalism will apply.

Capitalism isn’t a fundamental law like the speed of light or thermodynamics.

We can use other systems that suit our goals better. Even if it’s a better form of capitalism than what we’re dealing with now.

This post-monetarist form of capitalism is killing people and this planet and enriching but a few. That’s not the kind of society most people want. A matter of time before there are enough have-nots and upheaval becomes a real problem for the capital owners.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

#624

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I your work is not producing anything valuable for other people it's void and you will get bored pretty fast, it's a human nature. If it does you can always find a way to monetize it as people need it and ready to share their wealth for something they need. No, it doesn't have to be a work "for a company", but if you can't "make money off of this" it probably means your "work" is only relevant to you, or somebody els…

People who have enough wealth to not work for a living seem to manage their boredom pretty well.

You think so? Have you been in that position? I was. It's not what you think it is. Also unless you want to spend your wealth pretty fast (money has a half-life time like radioactive elements, doesn't depend on quantity) you have to work to keep your wealth, and it's not less nerve-racking than spending your 8 hours at work and forgetting it until next morning.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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The grandparent comment does contain a definition: “A […] system that […] would make people welcome better AI because they could be confident it would make everyone wealthier” That would be a fair system regardless of the specifics of how it’s achieved.

Well, then we have been living in a system that's as close to fair as possible since global individual wealth has been growing for a long time. The few times we had it shrink significantly over some period of time is when local populations attempted forced wealth distribution. Our present system, by this definition, is amazing!

> Well, then we have been living in a system that's as close to fair as possible since global individual wealth has been growing for a long time.

That’s a non-sequitur.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

#626

The fact that so many people fear loss of income as a result of better AI is a real indictment of our economic system. A better system that more fairly distributed economic productivity would make people welcome better AI because they could be confident it would make everyone wealthier instead of just a few people rich enough to be Goa'uld.

Interesting take — I also think these arguments come from a place where people have (subconsciously?) come to terms with doing something monotonous or repetitive to survive.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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If we could just stop being economically gaslighted it would help. The economic system can't be simultaneously unproductive enough to require us to keep raising the retirement age and so productive that job loss is a big problem. It is possible that a political war on labor is being waged at both ends.

The changing demographics is what causes the retirement age to be increased. In the 1960's, the average lifespan was in the 60s. So a retirement age of 65 meant that around half of retirees would die before collecting retirement. Now the average lifespan is 80. And the median age of the population is older than ever. Not really much to do with an "unproductive" population. Except that retirees are unproductive I gues…

>In the 1960's, the average lifespan was in the 60s >So a retirement age of 65 meant that around half of retirees would die before collecting retirement.

Congratulations, you have failed statistics.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

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This is a really pessimistic and shallow article. Who will prompt the AI for code? Manager? Also, you mentioned it gave wrong result at first. How did you know? Because you know how to code. As mentioned in other comment she should learn more about programming so she can become indispensible.

Manager is the last person that would be able to give complete and correct prompt...

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

#629

The fact that so many people fear loss of income as a result of better AI is a real indictment of our economic system. A better system that more fairly distributed economic productivity would make people welcome better AI because they could be confident it would make everyone wealthier instead of just a few people rich enough to be Goa'uld.

Well maybe shift to "real world" professions will occur resulting in us addressing abysmal infrastructure and housing situation. I am looking at picking up a trade because of this coming shift.

Re: I wish GPT4 had never happened

#630
People really need to accept AI as the useful tool it is and lay off the old grumpy "back in my day"-attitude. It's a disruptive technology and it's here to stay. Adapt and praise it for what it is ... and most importantly recognize what it enables you to do - instead of feeling challenged by it. Every profession that has tools that assist or take away certain aspects of it will enable you to put in more work and effort into other aspects of it. Just use that as an opportunity, like it happens every so often with every other technological advancement.
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