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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by jandrese »

worik wrote: post #615

Off topic, but my favourite thing about GPT is the way it shamelessly lies, sometimes. I asked "What is GPT3" and it told me it was developed by Microsoft. I asked what did OpenAI have to do with GPT3, it said "nothing". I pinned it to the wall with a link to the Wikipedia page and it acknowledged Microsoft invested in GPT-3.... Asked again just now, being honest now.

ChatGPT is a bullshit engine. Maybe someday someone will figure out how to marry it to data sources so it puts out useful information, but today it's mostly useful as a fiction generator.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by carlosjobim »

throwaway4aday wrote: post #463
yamtaddle wrote: post #352

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Fewer people juggling more very-different responsibilities, which is a continuation of how office work's already been going. Personal computer? Now everyone does typing/data-entry/data-organization/data-retrieval, not just secretaries—most of whom we've fired. Also, now "programmer" and "analyst" are one job instead of two. We fired most of the programmers, all you analysts are "software developers" now. Hope you lik…

Don't worry, we'll eventually get down to only requiring 1 employee to run a successful business.

When it comes to IT work, that's how it should be - as long as we're talking about self employed.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by chewmieser »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #613
aeonflux wrote: post #609

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How are they using ChatGPT - is there an API? Or is this simply abuse of TOS?

They're not using ChatGPT, they're using GPT-3, which has an API. There is a ChatGPT API coming but it's not available yet. It is infuriating how everyone is describing all GPT models as "ChatGPT". It's very misleading.

Supposedly there is a hidden model that you can use via the API that actually is ChatGPT. One of the libraries mentioned in these comments is using it.

Edit: this one https://github.com/transitive-bullshit/chatgpt-api

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by johtso »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #602
johtso wrote: post #401

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I think there's also an argument to be made that $20 per month is a bigger deal than some people realise. The issue isn't just _that one_ specific subscription you're paying for. The issue is how they all accumulate over time.. and eventually you find that your metaphorical bucket of money has turned into a leaky sieve. Not to mention all the services you forget to unsubscribe from even though they've ceased to provi…

When I tack on subscriptions I review other ones I cannot justify since you only consume so many services at once right? Then I cancel accordingly.

That's a good idea and probably a healthy habit to build! I might try and start doing that..

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by [deleted] »

potatoman22 wrote: post #583
jeremyjh wrote: post #358

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Stupid? If you had no access to a free search engine would you spend $20 a month on it? I sure would. It is also stupid to think that promoted results aren't a cost for you; if the search provider values it, there must be a cost.

ChatGPT still has a free tier. I don't think $240/year for faster responses + piloting new features is worth it for most people.

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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by littlestymaar »

m463 wrote: post #308
ezekg wrote: post #205

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You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…

There's a big difference between a monitor that you pay and own for many years, and a $20 monthly subscription though. It's going to be really quickly much more expensive than a monitor …

I have no issues paying for thing I can use for a long time or re-sell if it turns out not being that useful, but spending money and investing time using cloud-based tools that can be discontinued by next month, thanks but no thanks.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by fleddr »

300bps wrote: post #281
extr wrote: post #265

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No. I'm a salaried employee. Marginal time/effort savings do not directly translate into more money for me. But the $20 charge hits my bank account today. Perhaps if I use it consistently enough and in smart enough ways I will be perceived to be a more valuable/productive employee, which might translate to a raise. But that's a lot of maybes. I'm sure it will get to that point eventually, but by then the value will b…

No. I'm a salaried employee. Marginal time/effort savings do not directly translate into more money for me. I am also a salaried employee and if I can save a minute of work time that’s one less minute I have to work. I have a body of work I need to complete and sometimes that takes me 40 hours and sometimes much more. The only way I can think of that $20 per month for increased productivity doesn’t help is if your co…

Most jobs require you to be available for 8 hours. So you can't work hyper productively and then quit for the day at 2PM. You need to show up for the 4PM meeting as well as the continuous storm of incoming chats.

This is why productivity improvements feel so meh. For people that are hyper competitive and ambitious, it's a way to tackle more and bigger challenges. Fine.

For others though, the benefits do not really materialize in meaningful ways. Maybe you can win some slack/recovery time, but it's not really truly free time. You're still working and on call.

In fact, in quite a lot of teams being productive is actively punished. Say that in agile you do a great sprint, and execute 10 story points instead of the normal 5.

Nice. Oh...so you can do 10? 10 it is then for all the future sprints. Without a pay increase, obviously.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by jupp0r »

NicoleJO wrote: post #570
gdb wrote: post #374

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(I work at OpenAI.) Thanks for the report — these are not actually messages from other users, but instead the model generating something ~random due to hitting a bug on our backend where, rather than submitting your question, we submitted an empty query to the model. That's why you see just the answers and no question upon refresh — the question has been effectively dropped for this request. Team is fixing the issue…

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Do humans also have to pay you money if they read your publications, learn from them and use them in their jobs?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by seba_dos1 »

worik wrote: post #615

Off topic, but my favourite thing about GPT is the way it shamelessly lies, sometimes. I asked "What is GPT3" and it told me it was developed by Microsoft. I asked what did OpenAI have to do with GPT3, it said "nothing". I pinned it to the wall with a link to the Wikipedia page and it acknowledged Microsoft invested in GPT-3.... Asked again just now, being honest now.

Its job is to generate a convincing response. It doesn't "lie" and it doesn't "tell truth" either. It just does what it's asked to. It may use memorized facts if that makes it easier to generate a convincing response, but it's completely optional.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by therealdrag0 »

dogma1138 wrote: post #619
therealdrag0 wrote: post #299

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If you outperform your peers and get a raise just 6 months sooner that pays for itself.

Or as you used a non sanctioned tool in a corporate environment with murkiness around IP and copyright and quite likely exposed confidential information to a 3rd party you get disciplined or fired. And not for nothing you probably will have better luck scoring a promotion by spending $20 a month on doughnuts for the team than on ChatGPT.

Yep sorry I wasn’t thinking of chatgpt specifically when I wrote that so much as AI assistants in general. Def everything you said need to be considered.
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