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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by JasserInicide »

richbell wrote: post #213
jacquesm wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I moved to Gitlab and stayed there. Principles and all that.

It's breaking my heart to see Gitlab's recent behaviour (e.g., deleting old projects, removing sensible pricing options). I want to give them my money but no longer can because of how prohibitively expensive it is for me to buy the features I'd want. It's clear they're struggling to compete with a post-acquisition GitHub that effectively has infinite budget from Microsoft.

No, they're suffering from needing to provide hockey-stick growth to their VC overlords. Gitlab will eventually go the fate of all promising startups and do things once thought unthinkable in their early years.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by rsynnott »

pjc50 wrote: post #222
strangattractor wrote: post #169

There is no money is promoting free speech or at least not the kind of money Twitter needs to pay back it's investors and creditors. There have been multiple poor business decisions since the buyout. The "burn it the ground and start over mentality" is effectively placing the company in a startup position. Given the risk of startups it would have likely been cheaper/smarter to start a new company than pursue a levera…

Destroying Twitter, or at least rendering it unusable by its current audience, is clearly the objective. I'm not entirely sure why but it seems to be to "own the libs". (edit: I have been pointed at the EU rules https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-... under which "gatekeeper platforms" may not "prevent consumers from linking up to businesses outside their platforms". However I expect Twitter t…

I don’t really buy that there _is_ a master plan. I suspect everyone has just been telling him he’s a magical super-genius for so long that he’s started to believe it, so obviously Twitter would be easy.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by bowsamic »

pwdisswordfish9 wrote: post #517
Signez wrote: post #29

I don't see how this could not be qualified as a flagrant abuse of a dominant position, at least in the European Union.

Twitter is hardly dominant, especially in the European Union. It’s mostly Americans who are obsessed with the bird site.

That’s not true at all. Twitter has a lot of influence in the UK, France, and Germany. EU officials have already commented on this whole situation

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by JasserInicide »

m4lvin wrote: post #24

Note that Mastodon is third in the list. I consider that a success. 1. They ignore you. 2. They laugh at you. 3. They fight you. <<<--- we are here. 4. You win.

Mastodon is the last thing people need to be moving toward. It's an even more isolated bubble than people already experience

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Post by kstrauser »

drstewart wrote: post #600
kstrauser wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it hard to discuss this without being sarcastic or flippant because it’s so utterly, laughably boneheaded.

Then maybe you should refrain from commenting?

I reserve the right to criticize dumb decisions.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by haxiomic »

SpacePortKnight wrote: post #616
haxiomic wrote: post #555

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This is a great plan if you're working with rocks or particles but these are human beings, once they distrust you it's pretty hard to get that back. Technologists treating human beings as inanimate objects of optimisation captures what I find so disheartening about the trends in our field

Ethically I agree and yet it'll certainly be interesting if this strategy works. It may bring in new discoveries on how people organize themselves on social media and how a new social media can be created or destroyed.

Agreed, results will be interesting either way

You’re right of course that this would have been done with strategy in mind

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by guelo »

hakanderyal wrote: post #557

PG just announced he is moving to Mastodon[0][1]. This policy can be rolled back, but the trust is eroding, and it's much harder to rebuild. People will be more and more afraid of spending time&effort to cultivate an audience on Twitter. For me, it'll require a leadership/ownership change, which is not that likely? PG can do it, his audience will follow. Not everyone has that luxury. Especially for those who are at t…

I actually think leadership/ownership change is pretty likely. With the network shrinking instead of growing it's less likely by the day that Twitter is going to be able to make payments on the ridiculous debt Elon saddled it with. At some points the banks will takeover to salvage what they can.
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