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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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minhazm wrote: post #595
paxys wrote: post #434

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Then look at YouTube: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-subscribed_YouT ... > Almost all made famous by YouTube. I looked the top 50 in that list and maybe ~5 of them are what you describe. The rest are big music labels, TV channels, artists and other such independently popular figures, not very different from Twitter.

Unclear why this is getting downvoted, it is accurate statement. Only 20 of the top 50 channels are not brands. Of those 20 if you exclude music channels like BTS, Blackpink, Justin Bieber, etc. you're only left with 10 channels.

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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by tptacek »

dmix wrote: post #564
ekianjo wrote: post #558

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As if King cant pay 20 dollars.

Everyone seems to either be assuming King somehow cares about paying $$ instead of making a political statement and/or Elon was making a serious earnest reply to King, instead of being his usual needling shitposter self. Neither of which both of their histories supports. Stephen King will quit Twitter just as credibly as Jay-z “retired” from rapping.... like Elon Musk gives a shit about convincing a person worth $500…

I'm sure there's politics involved in the fact that King is the first person we're seeing in this public argument with Musk, but the dynamic he's talking about is apolitical and pretty obvious. For true celebrities, of which King is obviously one, Twitter needs them more than they need Twitter. Twitter should pay them to use the platform. Nobody has ever bought a copy of Carrie because they saw the blue checkmark next to Stephen King's name.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by pkulak »

pie420 wrote: post #568
pkulak wrote: post #454

Elon is the PM from hell. Has some shower thought and starts throwing tickets on everyone's board 45 minutes later. This is why the Model X has those silly doors.

The model X is also probably one of the most profitable and iconic cars in the modern era.

I'd argue in spite of its doors. A long-range EV in the most popular segment, a full decade before a single competitor? That thing could have had a single door on the front, like the BMW Isetta, and it still would have sold like mad.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by beezle »

entropicgravity wrote: post #321

Yeah this is reasonable. For those who want or need it $100/yr is affordable but more than most would pay just to have it but don't need it. Off course it's mostly a mechanism to strengthen the bottom line but if it's value for money then go ahead.

Outside the vanity group, the only people likely to pay for this are the people who have somebody else paying for it - a corporate or government employer - or who can write it off personally as a cost of business.

While nice to think that every comment I make to a tweet is read by the original tweeter, at the end of the day I honestly am not heartbroken if they do not.

And I most definitely do not reply to tweets with the idea that others will be so amazed by my brilliance that they follow me. Is that really a thing?

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by tptacek »

paxys wrote: post #570
ekianjo wrote: post #558

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As if King cant pay 20 dollars.

As if Elon needs 20 dollars.

He needs something, because he's tied tens of billions of dollars of his own money in an LBO that left him in control of a company with about a billion dollars a year of debt service cost.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by bumby »

ianferrel wrote: post #292
bumby wrote: post #268

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Don't humans generally value relative wealth, which would also make it a zero sum game? E.g., someone in poverty today isn't particularly comforted by knowing they have luxuries that former kings didn't have, like plumbing, because well-being is tied to relative scales

They may not feel good about their creature comforts, but indoor plumbing is an objective luxury to a great extent. It is objectively better to not have to go out in the cold to take a shit at night, even if you're "poor".

I considered that before posting, but what made me ultimately disagree is that well-being is not objective. It is very often completely subjective.

Consider that fact that at one point in the past you probably thought what you have now would make you happy. And maybe for a short time you were. But invariably that feeling of well-being wanes. You can say your new car is objectively better than your old one, yet after having it a few years it feels exactly like the previous vehicle from the standpoint about how much it contributes to your well-being. If well-being were an objective fact, you'd still feel happier with the new car. Most of the time, we have an innate ability to shift the goalposts, which keeps us continuously striving. To that extent, well-being is all subjective. I'm sure people in 200 years will wonder how we ever got along with our miserable existence without the creature comforts they take for granted.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by jjfoooo5 »

awb wrote: post #578
minimaxir wrote: post #5

The price 100% was $20/mo as previously reported by journalists until Twitter dunked on it, and Elon's interpretation of the backlash is "the price is too high" and not "any price makes no sense at all." This pricing clarification is most likely due to Stephen King's complaint: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587312517679878144 > We need to pay the bills somehow! Twitter cannot rely entirely on advertisers. How…

This threat is interesting. I wonder what the minimum number is of top Twitter accounts that would have to leave for the platform to lose an unrecoverable amount of its daily impressions. For example, out of the top 100 twitter accounts ( https://socialblade.com/twitter/top/100 ), almost all are musicians, sports figures, politicians or news outlets. If the top 5 musicians and the top 5 sports figures got together an…

The critical thing for the platform is that if I want to find the Twitter account for {celebrity foo} I can do so with a high degree of confidence that it will be real.

I think the loss of trust from consumers is the bigger risk, successful impersonations are relatively high profile and people don't like being tricked.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by rconti »

skilled wrote: post #360
rconti wrote: post #349

I wonder how big the exodus from Twitter has been-- (seems noteworthy from what I've seen)-- and whether it will be covered by journalists? They seem to have already decided that Twitter = news, ignoring the fact that most people don't use Twitter at all. If (say) 5% of people leave Twitter, will journalists notice? Of course not, they'll just keep pretending like "people on twitter" == "people".

There is no exodus. People are slaves to impulse and comfort and if you don’t understand that on a fundamental psychological level then why are you commenting on the topic in the first place?

I don't grok what you're even attempting to say here. If I don't understand people are slaves to impulse and comfort, why am I commenting on twitter? Just, what?

That said, I killed my twitter accounts on elonday, and saw a dozen accounts' worth of coworkers do the same in just a random slack thread. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't have a ton to do with elon, it was just a good time to say goodbye to a service that I've failed to find utility in over the past dozen years or so, just like the vast majority of America, and, indeed, the world.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by simondotau »

oska wrote: post #475
freejazz wrote: post #378

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Because Musk fanboys have a deep drive to provide rational explanations for the myriad of idiotic things he states

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes. > Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

The fact that this rule is now seen as optional is, IMHO, a genuinely bad sign for the health of the Hacker News community.
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