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Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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Post by fmdragon »

qq66 wrote: post #461
spywaregorilla wrote: post #306

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As someone who doesn't listen to much rap / hip hop, and can only name his cover (adaptation?) of Stronger, I do know who Kanye is. I don't know anything about his music. Mostly I just know of him because he's a very public asshole. Much like his wife. I find it basically impossible to empathize with him. I just wouldn't ever be in that situation. "Rising against adversity" is not the story I'd be be using here so mu…

> Mostly I just know of him because he's a very public asshole. Much like his wife. By "his wife" do you mean his ex-wife Kim Kardashian? If so, in what ways is she an asshole?

I believe that OP meant that his ex-wife HAS a very public asshole.

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Post by tootie »

mrtksn wrote: post #11

Musk and everyone else is right that we do need a platform with free speech. The only problem is that all those free speech advocates are actually NIMBY's when it comes to free speech. I have been following self proclaimed free speech absolutists(because I too, believe in free speech but don't believe it exists) and they are totally not the kind of people that say "I hate what you say but I will die defending your ri…

The kind of censorship that occurs on places like Twitter or Facebook is purely an artifact of free market capitalism. The existence of odious people with socially unacceptable opinions decrease the value of the platform. Given those kind of people unfettered access to a private platform when they are not contributing to the growth and vibrancy of the platform is essentially just charity. This is the "marketplace of ideas" functioning exactly as it's supposed to.

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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Post by stonogo »

mrtksn wrote: post #355
themitigating wrote: post #285

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I agree with this but then you don't have free speech right? I assume you are referring to something like defamation but controlled by the state

No, I refer to things like attaching counter opinions to opinions of people with high visibility for example. So if the concern is the power of the famous, never display their tweets alone, display it with a few other tweets. Maybe do issue follow ups, so if someone says something and later it is contested prioritise the contestants until they get similar reach. For example, if a politician says he never met with som…

We had that in broadcasting; it was an FCC rule called the Fairness Doctrine. Reagan dismantled it, and that directly led to the extremist radio empires that fuel a lot of the misinformation online today.

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Post by martin1975 »

jpgvm wrote: post #582
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Assuming the user's comment meets the legal definition of 1A speech and is not porn, if you can show me a single instance where anyone that posted a comment that was either removed or censored in some way by anyone with access at Gab, I will personally send you USD $50 in crypto at any address you specify in the comment, after I corroborate your example/evidence with Gab's management. I've been on Gab since its incep…

These places with less free speech aren't even as far away as Russia or China. Hate speech is illegal in Australia for instance.

Didn't peg Australia for a repressive country/government. If this is really the case, meaning, laws are codified against "hate speech", it's pretty much the beginning of the end of them, IMHO. Free expression should be as close to absolute as possible, everywhere....

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Post by breck »

logicalmonster wrote: post #390

How could an average outside observer distinguish between another's mental illness and a guy who's just a real out of the box thinker who might be wrong about many ideas but might also add value to the world by perceiving reality in an atypical way? A lot of posters are claiming Kanye is mentally ill and unable to manage his own affairs. What is the direct evidence of this? And I don't simply mean "provide examples o…

Just take a look at parler (https://parler.com/breckyunits) — there are barely any ads, clear sign of mental illness.

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Post by citilife »

I think others may be missing the fact of why Kanye could be buying Parler

- Kanye just had his bank account closed by JP Morgan (for what appears to be his beliefs)

https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/13/kanye-west-bank-jp-morgan-end...

- Kanye was kicked off instagram & twitter

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kanye-west-ins...

- It's still unclear exactly why both occurred. Supposedly it's antisemitism, but he also just wore a "white lives matter" shirt

https://nypost.com/2022/10/07/kanye-west-defends-white-lives...

The connection between all of this could lead someone to want to buy their own social media company.

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Post by LegitShady »

werber wrote: post #580
qq66 wrote: post #461

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> Mostly I just know of him because he's a very public asshole. Much like his wife. By "his wife" do you mean his ex-wife Kim Kardashian? If so, in what ways is she an asshole?

She's under investigation for a crypto scam, https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2022-183 she's also long been criticized for cultural appropriation, https://time.com/6072750/kardashians-blackfishing-appropriat...

Crypto scams are bad. your second link can't be taken seriously by people capable of critical thinking and undermines your credibility.

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Post by Maursault »

cwkoss wrote: post #609
Maursault wrote: post #534

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> but I can see almost anyone falling into the exact same trap hes fallen into if they lived his life. Kanye is a garden variety manic-depressive. It has likely been exacerbated by stress and self-medicating with the wrong drugs, causing instability, paranoia and delusion. Bipolar disorder is genetic, it doesn't develop due to no one being able to say "no" to them. What you are describing, however, is one way that Na…

Personality disorders aren't curable. > I haven't heard he is violent nor of reports of him berating and belittling others I haven't heard about violence, but berating and belittling others seems common for him - it's practically his brand

> Personality disorders aren't curable.

Incorrect. There is no single cure for personality disorders, but that doesn't mean they can't be cured. Any mental illness that is not genetic and which develops due to external causes can be cured. There are many personality disorders, of which NPD is one. While there is no single cure for NPD, in fact NPD can be cured in many cases in one of two ways. Some can be cured relatively quickly with an antidepressant, which eliminates the symptoms, but most with NPD can either mitigate the disorder or completely cure it though talk therapy generally in under two years. It's absolutely true that one can learn to stop being an asshole.

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Post by LegitShady »

nemothekid wrote: post #558
spywaregorilla wrote: post #306

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As someone who doesn't listen to much rap / hip hop, and can only name his cover (adaptation?) of Stronger, I do know who Kanye is. I don't know anything about his music. Mostly I just know of him because he's a very public asshole. Much like his wife. I find it basically impossible to empathize with him. I just wouldn't ever be in that situation. "Rising against adversity" is not the story I'd be be using here so mu…

> I would wager greatly that it's not that he's grown cynical to people saying he can't do something, but that he's become delusional from people telling him a genius. I've been wary of defending Kanye online lately, but Kanye's influence isn't just "rap / hip hop". Kanye also broke into luxury/high-end fashion quite unexpectedly where he was given the same sort of push back. It started with him interning at Fendi (w…

>Kanye also broke into luxury/high-end fashion

the secret here is that the emperor has no clothes, and Kanye's fashion garbage is equally as garbage as the rest of the high end fashion culture. It's not that kanye's that good, it's that its all a crock of dogfood with high end price tags and people who won't say anything trying to fit in for access to the wealthy.

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Post by [deleted] »

bondarchuk wrote: post #611
AlexandrB wrote: post #455

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> I think it's pretty dangerous to be labeling people involved in the national dialogue as mentally ill without a diagnosis, or at least some substantial and direct evidence. I think this is a lot less dangerous than you think. When people throw around terms like "groomer", "nazi", and "abuser" with reckless abandon, labelling someone as "bipolar" hardly compares. Ultimately anyone that agrees with what Kanye is sayi…

There are specific reasons to be wary of the way psychiatric diagnosis is used vs. other insults: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry

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