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Re: Richard Stallman – The state of the Free Software movement

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Post by ddingus » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:48 PM UTC

expropriator wrote: post #604

mcarlin wrote: post #584

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm very much not a fan of RMS, but here's one way you can square that circle: He and you could both live by the principle that you do as much to fit your principles as you feasibly can. If you have someone to help you get online anonymously for free, you do that. If you need to pay to be online, you do that instead. If you can get by in life without buying things and being tracked, you do that. If you can't do that,…

I completely agree with you except that I think that politics is important and not working for a defense contractor is insufficient. Everything I am pointing out is that there are shortcomings in RMS' model that can't be applied to everyone. I am not a "fan" of RMS, either. I am not a "fan" of anyone.

Wait, you completely agree, except you don't.

If you do agree with parent then you are simply communicating differences in what is worth what.

You then point out what you see to be RMS shortcomings, based again on disagreement with parent comment.

Don't get me wrong, all that is OK, just nowhere close to complete agreement to the parent comment.

Which is it?

Re: Richard Stallman – The state of the Free Software movement

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Post by ddingus » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:52 PM UTC

kome wrote: post #596

expropriator wrote: post #556

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ask myself how he pays for his servers. Does it count if another person does it? Apparently, he connects to the internet over an other person. I think that's a real issue. If you have enough power that other persons do the stuff for you, it doesn't mean it's a way in which other persons can do it as well.

"I never pay for anything on the Web, because I cannot pay anonymously. Anything on the net that requires payment that would identify me, I don't do. (I made an exception for the fees for the stallman.org domain, since that is connected with me anyway.)"

Yep. It makes sense in his context.

Personally, I really hate all the tracking. But I also really need to advance some aspects of my life because time grows short and I ended up raising my granddaughter.

(She will either kill me off, or I get a lot stronger! Lol)

So, I pay. But will also contribute time and money to good causes. Not happy about all that, but I need what I need too, so does the fam.

Tons of people struggle like this. It has to be important to have the conversations sans the judgement.

Re: Richard Stallman – The state of the Free Software movement

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Post by xunn0026 » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 6:12 PM UTC

noobermin wrote: post #128

I'll go ahead and shoot. The fact that this topic would be off-topic is just not true as the person speaking is in fact rms. Does this mean he is recuperated now? Everyone was calling him a pedophile and the FSF lost a lot of contacts over him being re-appointed. What does this mean then? Tbh, I was curious what happened since last year and I didn't realize at the time he was somewhat apologetic, and honestly, it is…

I see it the other way around. The "movement" does not exist without RMS.

FSF itself is pretty woke nowadays so they have diluted and taken their mission in another direction.

As for the RMS attacks, he did the heresy of thinking out loud on a private mailing list which do-gooders promptly leaked and framed.

Your whole question is silly. He's not 'recuperated' since there's no authority to decide this. It's kinda hard when you replace institutions for woke mobs.