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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by naasking »

hnarn wrote: post #466

I don't really understand why anyone who claims to be a proponent of a free market economy has an issue with a private corporation deciding what type of content they want to broadcast. JR sold his catalog of intellectual property (podcast episodes) of his own free will and was paid very well for it: about $100M from what I can gather. What Spotify chooses to do with it is completely up to them, even if they bought it…

It is censorship by definition. Whether you think it's justified is a separate question.

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Post by notapenny »

waffle_maniac wrote: post #232
nomilk wrote: post #224

This is bigger than Spotify. Rogan was a proactive person conducting open research into the world around him. When proactive people investigate things and share their findings, it now only takes a few to dislike the findings, fuss, and have the findings removed. To those that support this, I have 4 questions: 1. Is disincentivising sharing knowledge really good for the world? 2. Is it reasonable to expect 100% of inq…

He has fringe people on his show to drive engagement. Fauci is not going to pay the bills.

Might I ask what "fringe people" are? I've watched his podcast and he certainly has a whole spectrum of people on. He may have his opinions and biases, but a person is allowed that right? Who are these fringe people, people who have different opinions from you? From the main stream media?

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by emn13 »

DeWilde wrote: post #602
hnarn wrote: post #466

I don't really understand why anyone who claims to be a proponent of a free market economy has an issue with a private corporation deciding what type of content they want to broadcast. JR sold his catalog of intellectual property (podcast episodes) of his own free will and was paid very well for it: about $100M from what I can gather. What Spotify chooses to do with it is completely up to them, even if they bought it…

> JR sold his catalog of intellectual property Not entirely correct, it is a licensing deal, with exclusivity to Spotify. JR is still the owner of the IP, however, it can only be distributed through Spotify. But your point still stands, Spotify chooses what they will distribute, which is okay. My only gripe, in this whole Spotify/Rogan saga, is with the mainstream media that sees Rogan as a threat to their business m…

Let me go off on a slight tangent: Should all jokes be taken at face value? Communication is a complex business, and surely what's literal is largely irrelevant; what matters is what is communicated; i.e. what a recipient learns from whatever signals you transmit.

JR is deceptive not because every spoken word he says taken in isolation is false, but because the way he frames and presents various sources leads listeners to draw false conclusions. Taking everything he says at face value is no more valid that taking a joke at face value. TL;DR: - "just asking questions" is deceptive; that's not a valid way to learn nor inform. We could discuss in depth how it's deceptive, but that's not really the point - the point is that not all questions will be interpreted literally, so you need to do the same when judging how reasonable that communication is. You have to look holistically at the message listeners will hear.

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Post by kzrdude »

throwawayrev3 wrote: post #246
mrobins wrote: post #178

One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.

There's also: Tidal https://tidal.com/ Deezer https://www.deezer.com/ Bandcamp https://bandcamp.com/ Jango https://www.jango.com/ Radio Paradise https://radioparadise.com/ There's also FOSS software for collaborative music with friends, musicians etc: Jamulus https://github.com/jamulussoftware/jamulus

And Youtube Music https://music.youtube.com/

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bwartledorp wrote: post #603
uejfiweun wrote: post #594

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I support the right of the company to do what they want, but that doesn't prohibit me from disagreeing with how the exercise that right. I just think their decision to cancel Rogan is ethically and morally wrong, my issue is not with the legality of the move.

So, “canceling” means continuing to afford the canceled party a platform now? I thought you folks were concerned/concern trolling regarding tech deplatforming people wholesale, which is something Spotify has pointedly not done here. If HN flags a single comment I made, am I canceled? What do I do, join Gab for this indignity? Write a polemic about how my rights to use someone else’s platform to share thoughts they do…

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Post by weberer »

codeivore wrote: post #498
thebigjewbowski wrote: post #269

I love Joe. I use Spotify exclusively to listen to his podcast. I listen to every episode… I wish there was a way to tell them if it wasn’t for his show I’d never use their app but I suspect they already know that. Unfortunately I think attacks on his having been prescribed ivermectin and his guests like the highly published cardiologist and the guy that contracts with the defense department and has patents related t…

maybe civil war II will be fought with information and not guns

*WW3

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Post by misiti3780 »

iaml wrote: post #445
graderjs wrote: post #106

I'm not sure this website is accurate as Rogan so far has not said anything on Twitter or Instagram about this. Yet if true, this is such BS. It's hard not to see Rogan, with his massive and mostly bipartisan audience, yet still polarizing and controversial discussions, as a litmus test for how well the West really embraces dissent. We're supposed to have invented dissent, right? And Joe Rogan, he's our little free s…

> mostly bipartisan audience Is it though? Before spotify deal it was definitely true, but recently I tried some of his new episodes and he's much more conservative leaning nowadays. So much so I couldn't really watch it, stark contrast to earlier episodes with Duncan Trussel, Bill Burr and others. I heavily doubt he has much liberal audience nowadays.

If you think Rogan is conservative leaning you're living in a liberal/progressive bubble and do not seem to realize it.
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