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It's mild for non-vaccinated South Africans as well. The same still applies as always: Vaccinate the risk groups.
SA had very high numbers of previous infections, so there was a ton of pre-existing immunity.
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> "COVID killed many more because it was particularly severe." no. covid is novel, not appreciably more severe, and that's where mortality rates are coming from. it's following the dynamics of the many cold and flu viruses that came before it. we just happen to be at the beginning of the dynamics rather than at relative steady-state (e.g., 'endemic'), which is where most other viruses are at. this inability to reason…
It is? Care to source some data on these 'dynamics'? You are engaging on wishful thinking I'm afraid - wishful thinking that is even now still killing hundreds of thousands. Perhaps there is a name for that too.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-83987-3
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7252012/
https://sfamjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.111...
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You're missing the fact you can catch it over and over. My wife is currently battling Omicron after we both had covid at the start of last year. Fully vaccinated and boosted three weeks ago, caught it anyway. With an infected population this massive mutations happen fast enough to cause a new wave before the old one burns out.
Correct. I know several people who are vaccinated yet caught Covid twice. The principle thing to keep in mind, - vaccination is a risk reducer on severity of infection. Nobody said immunity; nobody said prevention. - and on that point not getting into the hospital is important. From a management standpoint, we've got to insure demand for hospital resources does not dwarf those same resources. That's the key managemen…
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It's a combination of doctors and nurses. In some places, it's nursing staff that's keeping all beds from being open. This is absolutely a workforce that can be flexed on a shorter term notice. Doctors can also be incentivized to do rotations in the ER. My primary care physician many years ago used to do ER rotations as a sort of overtime. Inventivize with the right pay, more will do it. Granted this isn't a large la…
nurses take years of training. where are you going to get them during a global pandemic on immediate notice when literally every area needs additional nursing resources? nurses and doctors are leaving due to the stress of a long term pandemic. are you asserting we can just force them back into labor? that's fairly dictatorial of you. it still doesn't change that we would only revert to original levels, it would not b…
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Is there even a single confirmed death from Omicron yet? I've heard of a couple but they turned out to be fake. This is a highly dynamic situation. Omicron is not alpha or even delta.
An unvaccinated man with underlying health conditions died in Texas mid December after testing positive for the COVID-19 omicron variant, officials in Houston said, marking what is believed to be the first death linked to the strain in the U.S. https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/2021122...
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Omicron didn’t kill 800 000 people. There’s also vastly more immunity (whether through vaccines or previous infections). Let’s wait and see but there’s hope it’s a different, milder disease.
(You are right of course. With the data we have now, we are quite certain that Omicron is much milder. Hopefully no lockdown is needed.) But, personally, I would like to avoid getting Omicron, as long term effects are still unclear: does "long Omicron" exist, does it affect vaccinated, and if yes how common and severe is it. There are some recent news about long Covid: it could be micro-clots.
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I thought the issues were more about the younger population than in Europe and the US. And the unknown number of folks that had already been exposed to previous waves. Not the racial makeup of the people living there.
> already been exposed in previous waves I was amused at the sudden acknowledgement of natural immunity from previous infection in the very publications that have constantly claimed it doesn't exist, the minute it supported their need to keep fear mongering. Same with the younger population point, considering these very organizations have gone out of their way to obfuscate the vast risk stratification by age for most…
Can you cite some of these alleged claims?
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Omicron evolved from Beta, which had pretty much bottomed out in the human population. They believe it evolved in mice. Just because Delta is disappearing in the human population doesn't mean it's gone.
> They believe it evolved in mice. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34954396/ https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2022/01/coronavirus-omi...