Good reason not to shell out for remote start in the first place!
Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start
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You may enjoy this recent article about Stephen Glass (infamous news fabulist) whose wife suffered from early-onset Alzheimer’s. https://airmail.news/issues/2021-12-4/loving-lies
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Put in foo@example.net (or whatever) as your email address and you can read it.
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Yeah - not sure why Toyota is getting hammered for this. Subaru does this as well. You can get app enabled remote start from your phone, if you buy their subscription service. I love Subaru, but that is a trash system.
Subaru at this point is a sub brand of Toyota. (they're part of the "Toyota Group" as of last year)
Toyota owns 20% of Subaru, and Subaru is also invested in Toyota. From what I understand being an affiliate in the Toyota Group is not remotely the same as them being a sub brand of Toyota.
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Tesla has a mobile app that can remotely turn on the climate controls, lock the car, open/close/crack open the windows, enable sentry mode, show the exact GPS location of your car, and more. In the car, you get GPS that is constantly updated. And you pay $0/month for any of that. They DO offer a $10/month "Premium Connectivity" package. That adds music streaming via Slacker Radio, Tidal, and Spotify, enables satellit…
As a reminder, "Premium Connectivity" package was originally included for with an unpublished end date for their vehicles, until it wasn't. All of the remote controls you talk about being free are provided over cellular connections, in addition to nav, voice support, and telemetry being sent back to tesla. as such, tesla is subject to the same economics as toyota, they have just decided to hide it in the price of the…
I have a 2014 model S and I’ve never paid for any of these features, yet have them all. Is this a model 3 thing?
Re: Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start
#625was posted here sometime ago: The door refused to open. It said, "Five cents, please." He searched his pockets. No more coins; nothing. "I'll pay you tomorrow," he told the door. Again he tried the knob. Again it remained locked tight. "What I pay you," he informed it, "is in the nature of a gratuity; I don't have to pay you." "I think otherwise," the door said. "Look in the purchase contract you signed when you boug…
Unrelated, but one of my favorite quotes from PKD is this one from Now Wait for Last Year: --- “All right," Eric agreed. "If you were me, and your wife were sick, desperately so, with no hope of recovery, would you leave her? Or would you stay with her, even if you had traveled ten years into the future and knew for an absolute certainty that the damage to her brain could never be reversed? And staying with her would…
I think I'd like to unsubscribe from all the "Unrelated, but ..." distraction top-level replies to top comments.
Please just stop.
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Unrelated, but one of my favorite quotes from PKD is this one from Now Wait for Last Year: --- “All right," Eric agreed. "If you were me, and your wife were sick, desperately so, with no hope of recovery, would you leave her? Or would you stay with her, even if you had traveled ten years into the future and knew for an absolute certainty that the damage to her brain could never be reversed? And staying with her would…
The cabbies take is bizarre to me. Surely choosing to leave is part of reality, not a rejection of it? Why should living in reality require acceding to circumstances at every opportunity? Unless I misunderstand the context and this quote is meant to be ironic, which seems possible.
Unfortunately, stories like this are not meant to be taken with the harsh, practical engineer's brain. You're supposed to taste it in your soul, appreciate the message, and move on.
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The Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards have a lot to say on the strength, composition, and properties of glass in passenger vehicles. In addition to being very difficult to break, it must also be resistant to shattering and remain in place while experiencing some pretty extreme forces. Automotive glass is not even glass really, it's more of a composite made up of layers of various transparent materials all design…
are these specs public somewhere? Sounds cool.
Nope. Unlike some better fields, the auto industry is incredibly tight-lipped about safety and crash structures. If these informal standards were to get out... and if the public were to know how well the industry has cornered the regulators, creating pseudo-standards that technically conform to safety protocols but functionally make no difference to consumer/passenger safety... there'd be riots.
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Also in the "too late" vein, at least in the US, I believe cars are still required to have a latch to open the trunk from the inside. Not sure if other countries have these.
Serious question: So why are all the people who are trapped/kidnapped in the cars in the movies not able to come out and have to yell to have someone come and rescue them? That implies that there is no way to open the latch from inside and people, including me, may take that as the truth and not even try to find the latch. I for sure didn't know that there was a way.
It's too dark to search for it, so you'd have to already know where the latch is at. I didn't know about keyless trunks until my ex-wife needed a jump and the battery was in the trunk, which could only be opened electronically or with the 'latch.' Google to the rescue!
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It's too late now for her of course, but you can take the headrest off the seat and use the metal prongs to smash the windows to get out.
Front windshield is easy to brake from the inside. A gentle push with your feet will crack it. Some harder kicks will remove it for sure.
Yep, not much more than moulding holding it in.
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My wife's cousin almost died from heat-stroke in her drive-way when her car trapped her inside the vehicle in full Australian summer sun because the battery failed while she was inside checking something. Doors and windows wouldn't open. Nobody heard her calls because the new car had good sound-proofing. She eventually managed to crawl through the panel behind the back seat to get into the boot (luckily she's quite p…
The horn depending on the battery is frightening
Why? I've only used my horn for telling people to get off their phone and go because the light turned green. I can't remember it ever being a necessity.