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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by nemo44x » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 10:03 PM UTC

tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330

yholio wrote: post #279

I can understand the business reasons for cleaning up the OnlyFans brand. But I can't, for the life of me, understand why they are killing a cash cow instead of spining it off into a side business. Clone the full experience on a dedicated site, OnlyFantasy.com, duplicate the whole userbase, and give a simple warning that I can find my favorite stars on another site. In time, the user bases will diverge naturally depe…

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

Looks like we found the killer app for Bitcoin.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by adamcharnock » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 10:04 PM UTC

andy_ppp wrote: post #614

adamcharnock wrote: post #607

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: as has been pointed out, I’ve misrepresented the parent comment. It’s late here, my apologies. There seem to be a lot of assumptions here that I don’t agree with. So perhaps this comment isn’t for me, in which case feel free to ignore the following. People seem to add so many values into the mix when it comes to sex work. If these old lonely people paid carers to visit them at home, would that be somehow differ…

1. I didn’t say old, maybe you misread? 2. I think I’m suggesting some men (the most obsessive and biggest spenders?) would use onlyfans instead of having a relationship. I’m not saying it’s right that a proportion of men become obsessive but it happens right? 3. I’d say a lot of men don’t make rational choices about sex.

1. That’s embarrassing, you’re absolutely right

2 & 3. I agree that a lot of men don’t think rationally about sex, and I think that has various societal causes. But I also think that is the problem here, and that possible obsessive OF use is one of the more minor symptoms.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by salt-thrower » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 10:04 PM UTC

tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330

yholio wrote: post #279

I can understand the business reasons for cleaning up the OnlyFans brand. But I can't, for the life of me, understand why they are killing a cash cow instead of spining it off into a side business. Clone the full experience on a dedicated site, OnlyFantasy.com, duplicate the whole userbase, and give a simple warning that I can find my favorite stars on another site. In time, the user bases will diverge naturally depe…

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

It's my understanding that PH is the only adult site with this issue. They got in hot water because of a series of high-profile lawsuits and media pieces about exploitation videos on their platform.

OF would likely not run into this because all of its content creators are verified and can only post videos of themselves or videos they have the rights to; it's not a free-for-all upload fest like PH used to be.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by mynegation » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

DantesKite wrote: post #540

tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

Do you think prostitution should be legal?

Sex work should be legal. I do not want to use the word “prostitution” as it carries unnecessary stigma. The main consideration is the safety of sex workers. Exploitation does exist but victims are hesitant to go law enforcement precisely because sex work is illegal. On the flip side people organizing sex work enterprises (aka “pimps” and “madams”) are already breaking the law so for them application of violence is not out of the framework.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by 7sidedmarble » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

Consultant32452 wrote: post #411

CamperBob2 wrote: post #234

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Patreon went one step further - if you post content against Patreon's rules anywhere else, even if you don't link to it, if Patreon finds out, they'll ask you to stop doing it, and threaten to suspend your account if you keep doing it. That sounds outrageous. Is there a link to more info about this policy?

Not generally about the policy, but there is one famous instance I'm aware of: Sargon of Akkad. It was something to the effect of him calling the neo-Nazis the N-word on someone else's Youtube channel. To be clear, he used the slur AGAINST the neo-nazis. Then Patreon dumped him. Here's the first Google result I found about it, no guarantees of accuracy. https://heavy.com/news/2018/12/patreon-sargon-of-akkad-jorda...

Thinking that's ok cause you're saying it to a bad person is some... high levels of mental gymnastics

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by tehbeard » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

TameAntelope wrote: post #616

tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

I find it utterly fascinating that Reddit is able to maintain such a huge porn collection with relatively little attention. I wish I knew what percentage of submissions were in NSFW subreddits, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were the majority. Maybe it's because they're not trying to make money off of it? I don't think they run ads on NSFW subreddits. I wonder if there's a market for something like how strip clubs…

Given how janky the last few years of website updates on reddit have been, the sheer user hostility might be reason enough alongside 0 monetization that keeps it afloat.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by adamcharnock » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 10:07 PM UTC

jfup wrote: post #620

adamcharnock wrote: post #607

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: as has been pointed out, I’ve misrepresented the parent comment. It’s late here, my apologies. There seem to be a lot of assumptions here that I don’t agree with. So perhaps this comment isn’t for me, in which case feel free to ignore the following. People seem to add so many values into the mix when it comes to sex work. If these old lonely people paid carers to visit them at home, would that be somehow differ…

>where does being able to “have” someone figure into any of this? The GP said "have relationships with these women", not "have these women".

I clearly should have read that comment more closely before getting on my high horse. Apologies.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by tehbeard » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 10:08 PM UTC

paulryanrogers wrote: post #485

maccolgan wrote: post #223

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For this use case, Patreon & OpenCollective (yes, OpenCollective) is far more established and offers many more features than OF. What's the point in using OF then?

Network effects. Start with taboo yet high demand market then pivot.

How and where and what USP (Unique Selling Point) is there to OF that Patreon/OpenCollective are missing?

"Network effects" doesn't mean jack, this isn't surfacing a plumber to a user on facebook because friends of friends have reviewed them in their local area..

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by tailius » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 10:11 PM UTC

Idiotic. Ceding to puritanical, moralizing PHBs is weak and throws away their core business model. They might as well declare bankruptcy and get it over with.

Leadership with backbone would deleverage themselves from controlling investors and utilize other payment methods like crypto.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by lijogdfljk » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 10:11 PM UTC

TameAntelope wrote: post #616

tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

I find it utterly fascinating that Reddit is able to maintain such a huge porn collection with relatively little attention. I wish I knew what percentage of submissions were in NSFW subreddits, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were the majority. Maybe it's because they're not trying to make money off of it? I don't think they run ads on NSFW subreddits. I wonder if there's a market for something like how strip clubs…

> I find it utterly fascinating that Reddit is able to maintain such a huge porn collection with relatively little attention.

I suspect they're working in the same direction, no? For example a few months back they removed NSFW from /r/all. They didn't just make it user-config'd SFW by default, to my knowledge you cannot browse NSFW content on /r/all. So they sort of ghosted that entire genre on their site.

Maybe they'll stop there?