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TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by hellomyguys »

cronix wrote: post #73
mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

I've seen more people with Down Syndrome and facial disfigurements on TikTok than any other platform.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by frumper »

rualca wrote: post #482
romwell wrote: post #412

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>The social media functionality is the secondary purpose of the app That's like saying that providing people with groceries is the secondary purpose of grocery stores, the first being collecting money in exchange for them. Duh! How horrible! Everyone would be better off if they just grew their own food on their own farm, like in the good old days Saying TikTok is the "worst" thing is absurd given the article we're di…

> That's like saying that providing people with groceries is the secondary purpose of grocery stores, the first being collecting money in exchange for them. No, not really. Like Facebook or Google, TikTok's revenue comes from selling ads. The advertisement business quite literally is based on how much personal info they can gather on yourself, and how they can leverage it to allow themselves and third parties to expl…

The way you phrase that it sounds like these social media companies black mail you with dirty secrets they learn about you. I understand why people don't want to be packaged and sold, but a realistic view is that you're getting a service subsidized by all of this.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by frumper »

inanutshellus wrote: post #611
bryceacc wrote: post #530

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kinda funny how people must not realize literally every app is querying all that information all the time...

Fatalism is how bad things survive. Don't accept bad behavior, and sure as hell don't criticize those that are standing up to it.

No one has described how those things are bad.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by pantalaimon »

mrkramer wrote: post #310
aerosmile wrote: post #235

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If you had an issue with Zuck calling early Facebook users "dumb f**ks," wait until you find out what's going on behind the closed Tik Tok doors. You have to remember - we're still in the honeymoon phase with Tik Tok and haven't learned to hate them yet. Once the media and all your friends start sharing hatred about Tik Tok, leaks are going to start coming out, and there will be all the other fun ways through which w…

Facebook won because people from Germany, Austria, and Switzerland could not only connect with friends in their domestic and neighboring countries but because they could connect with friends all around the globe. That's what pretty much happened all around the world with FB/IG or in one word standardization.

Huh, TIL Myspace was geoblocked?

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by socialist_coder »

pugets wrote: post #368
rjh29 wrote: post #199

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Reddit is still good, you're likely subscribing to popular subreddits. Don't subscribe to anything that appears in r/popular or r/all. Try subreddits that intentionally ban politics or have Part of what keeps Reddit free of such nastiness (in my experience at least) is the downvote button. Sure, it creates an echo chamber that ruins the popular subreddits, but on the smaller subreddits, it means that anything toxic,…

I found politics to be too pervasive to escape on Reddit, which is why I eventually deleted my account. I tried to stick to non-political subreddits, but when I found myself reading comments about police brutality in r/dogswithjobs, I knew I no longer wanted to use the site. What's sad is the political discussions aren't even good. Comments are written to appeal to the lowest common denominator of reader, and a lot o…

You need to take responsibility for yourself.

If it bothers you that much, don't let yourself get pulled into political discussions! It's really not that hard. Why do you care if other people waste their time arguing dumb politics? Just ignore it and move on!

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by inkblotuniverse »

spijdar wrote: post #597
madeofpalk wrote: post #569

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Isn't that the point? You can't say that tiktok "gets rid of people" in those demographics when Tiktok's algo creates all these micro communities where they flourish. I've never seen more diversity and representation on social media than on Tiktok.

Sure, it "gets rid of people" by isolating them into bubbles and makes sure people who don't want to see it, well, won't see it. Is it "representation" if it's only seen by people who want to see it? I think it's a big question, and one that applies to most social media, even if TikTok is one of the most extreme examples. Is it ethically/morally/socially good to de facto isolate niche groups of like-minded people int…

I don't like such things being chosen for me, but I definitely like not having things I'm not interested in shoved in my face.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by rchaud »

birdyrooster wrote: post #337
rchaud wrote: post #191

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It's also documented that Cambridge Analytica used data made available to it by Facebook to target millions with political propaganda. It wasn't just the US election, they had plenty of practice validating the strategy in elections in smaller countries. Where's the evidence that TT has been successfully used for nefarious purposes on a similar scale?

Think about how last summer Harvard discovered that Covid started in Wuhan back in August 2019 using satellite imagery and then overnight the focus became how to combat anti-Chinese sentiment (hate crimes had risen against Asian-Americans to levels seen earlier in the 2010s, still an order of magnitude less prevalent than hate crimes against American Blacks). TikTok was the principle platform leading that charge. Pre…

From where I'm sitting, the overnight focus was on establishing public health protocols to prevent the healthcare system from a black-swan type of event-driven collapse.

And passing legislation to provide financial relief.

And coordinating global travel restrictions.

And coordinating vaccine development efforts.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by rchaud »

fortuna86 wrote: post #489
rchaud wrote: post #191

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It's also documented that Cambridge Analytica used data made available to it by Facebook to target millions with political propaganda. It wasn't just the US election, they had plenty of practice validating the strategy in elections in smaller countries. Where's the evidence that TT has been successfully used for nefarious purposes on a similar scale?

Cambridge Analytica is not a government, they don't operate prison camps for millions of people (many of whom were targeted by online surveillance).

Correct. They just offer their services exclusively to people that want to win elections.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by chansiky »

rcconf wrote: post #430

TikTok is great because it values good content above else. Every other social media platform tends to value followers and popularity over content to reach people. Facebook: Number of friends Instagram: Number of followers Twitter: Number of followers Snapchat: Number of friends YouTube: Unsure exactly, but hard to go viral TikTok: Value of your content Consistently on TikTok you see very popular users with millions o…

In a dystopian world, where algorithms judge everyone by some arbitrary metric, you get to decide which algorithm will choose your fate. Which one will it be?
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