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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by theelous3 »

cartoonworld wrote: post #338
theelous3 wrote: post #281

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Ha! I didn't know the klien bottle guy was the accounting error guy. That's very cool. Googled him there and he's listed as an astronomer. But the astronomers consider him a computer guy ;)

You should read his book! He discusses this in the first chapter. He helped (or maybe solely) design the lens at W. M. Keck observatory, and you can see him on Numberphile a lot.

I did! A long long time ago. That's why I mentioned it. It always stuck with me :)

Brilliant read.

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Post by pas »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #443
pas wrote: post #224

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This uncaring attitude is directly a result of lack of competition. Amazon won. (Sure, there are some other big names in the game, but the online retail market is in a pathological state. As in case of other "natural monopolies" the network effect is very large, thus barriers to entry is absurdly high, hence no real competition. The incumbents are optimizing and diversifying, participating in meta-games - eg. lobbyin…

Retail is not really a winner take all market though. It has very low barriers to entry. There are multitude of options to use as an alternative to Amazon. https://www.emarketer.com/content/amazon-dominates-us-ecomme... To Amazon's credit, they did move fast and bet big on online retail first. But since it is a low barrier to entry business, there is next to profit to be had in it, so they really do not have an incen…

Do we know if Cliff uses Amazon as a retailer or as a platform?

> There are multitude of options to use as an alternative to Amazon.

Network effects still matter. Sellers won't maintain presence on every retail site.

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Post by heavyset_go »

jhgb wrote: post #617
heavyset_go wrote: post #614

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They'll argue that they aren't liable for the crimes that users of their platform commit using their platform and cite Section 230 of the CDA.

Which makes no sense, since CDA's Section 230 is saying nothing about being an accomplice to crimes, only about not being treated as the publisher or speaker of some information.

I agree, and there's a case that's gone to the Supreme Court over this, so we'll see how they rule.

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Post by mattnewton »

giarc wrote: post #455
mattnewton wrote: post #431

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You can (I do)

Interesting. I'm wondering if I'd be able to drop the Amazon Prime then as well. Outside of Subscribe and Save, all of our purchases could be bunched until we hit the minimum order $. We hardly ever watch Amazon Prime video, we used to use the Photo storage but now pay for Google Photos (or Google One... whatever they call it now). Not sure what other benefits it provides?

I’d be the wrong person to ask because I didn’t find enough value in it after the trial expired :)

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Post by kabdib »

afgrant wrote: post #556
kabdib wrote: post #507

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NewEgg is just fine with scammers on its marketplace. Last year I bought a new mouse. NewEgg redirected my sale to a reseller, who sent me a busted, used mouse in a plastic baggie, with cigarette burns on the buttons. After raising a little hell, I got a refund. Basic on customer reviews, I'm not the only person this seller (betechparts, if you care) is scamming. Despite multiple emails to customer support and the Ne…

When you ordered, was it a "Sold by: Newegg" product? Regardless, they're still responsible to handle it. I maintain that Newegg has diluted its brand (and presumably grossed higher) by adding so many third-party sellers. At least, for me, they've held up their product support thus far.

[Argh, "Based", not "Basic" in the second paragraph]

I don't remember. It probably did not have "sold by NewEgg" checked. That my order was going to a third party seller was not obvious to me, the first time it happened.

I've made reluctant orders through NewEgg since then. Much prefer to buy locally, even at a higher price.

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Post by billpg »

jgrahamc wrote: post #344
CliffStoll wrote: post #340

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Hi Bill, Yep. Cloudflare is out front, so the actual load on the rasp-pi is mitigated by their content-delivery network. Then, too, my website is almost entirely simple html with compressed images, so there's not a lot of bytes to shovel. Here in Berkeley/Oakland, Sonic.net has strung quality fiber-optic, so there's 1Gbit to my house. That lets me keep up with things. However, they only give a dynamic ip address;, so…

Cliff... 1. I met you in Kepler's when Silicon Snake Oil came out and we talked about something and you wrote in the inside "I hear you, John". I don't know what we discussed! 2. I am now Cloudflare's CTO and if you want to avoid the dynamic IP address problem you can use Cloudflare Tunnel to connect to us (rather than us to you). https://www.cloudflare.com/products/tunnel/

Hello there. I just spoke to your colleague in sales and she tells me that Cloudflare Tunnel is only available to Enterprise customers. I forget the exact price but it included the word "thousand". (I almost fainted.)

My needs are very similar to Cliff's. I have (or going to have) a home server on a residential ISP which can't accept incomming connections. I need a public-facing server that will return from the cache if I'm ever on the HN front page or my home server is down, TLS handling, and routing to my home server's port 80 when needed.

I mostly serve personal websites but I have aspirations of building a small business. Is there anything in Cloudflare's range that would work for my kind of needs?

Hoping you follow-up on nine-day-old threads, Bill.

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Post by jgrahamc »

billpg wrote: post #626
jgrahamc wrote: post #344

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Cliff... 1. I met you in Kepler's when Silicon Snake Oil came out and we talked about something and you wrote in the inside "I hear you, John". I don't know what we discussed! 2. I am now Cloudflare's CTO and if you want to avoid the dynamic IP address problem you can use Cloudflare Tunnel to connect to us (rather than us to you). https://www.cloudflare.com/products/tunnel/

Hello there. I just spoke to your colleague in sales and she tells me that Cloudflare Tunnel is only available to Enterprise customers. I forget the exact price but it included the word "thousand". (I almost fainted.) My needs are very similar to Cliff's. I have (or going to have) a home server on a residential ISP which can't accept incomming connections. I need a public-facing server that will return from the cache…

1. Please email me (jgc) and tell me who told you this

2. We literally announced free tunnels for all customer here: https://blog.cloudflare.com/tunnel-for-everyone/

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Post by billpg »

jgrahamc wrote: post #627
billpg wrote: post #626

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Hello there. I just spoke to your colleague in sales and she tells me that Cloudflare Tunnel is only available to Enterprise customers. I forget the exact price but it included the word "thousand". (I almost fainted.) My needs are very similar to Cliff's. I have (or going to have) a home server on a residential ISP which can't accept incomming connections. I need a public-facing server that will return from the cache…

1. Please email me (jgc) and tell me who told you this 2. We literally announced free tunnels for all customer here: https://blog.cloudflare.com/tunnel-for-everyone/

I just emailed you. Thank you for following up on such an old comment thread.
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