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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by amznthrwaway »

antris wrote: post #411
hristov wrote: post #373

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It should be noted that this Hunter S Thompson quote refers to Oscar Zeta Acosta. Acosta made a big difference fighting for the rights of poor and marginalized mexican-americans in east LA. He did something more with his life than just take a lot of drugs and be weird.

> did something more with his life than just take a lot of drugs and be weird. Not everything about a person is their public image though. Summing up a persons life like that, even if you disagree with his public image, is just inhumane. Did you know him? Did you ever even see him once?

True. McAfee was also a murderer. That’s worth including in the summary. Weird, drug-addled murderer.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by azernik »

onemoresoop wrote: post #565
1-6 wrote: post #375

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There's a saying, you can't escape death and taxes.

You can escape taxes with death though

Not even then. I think they take back taxes out of your estate.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by 729e260408c42c »

When McAfee was running for president I sent him an email telling him that he should shave his beard, citing that every president since the invention of the safety razor has been clean shaven.

He emailed me back saying he would be the first president since then to win with a beard.

RIP to a real legend

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by FireBeyond »

hellbannedguy wrote: post #560
Klinky wrote: post #533

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The dude was found liable for two people's deaths, and evaded taxes, like... I dunno. He doesn't seem like that great of a guy. He seems like a self-centered reckless narcissist leaving destruction in his wake.

When was he found guilty for the dead neighbor? Anyways---you don't poison a guy's dogs. (Yea--I know, I'm suspose to be compassionate over rich dead guys. By rich dead guys, I mean the neighbor who was constantly complaining over John's dogs whom was found dead. As far as today, they had no evidence against John.) I liked John. I liked he was different than most rich guys. I painfully remember him stating he doesn't…

Constantly "complaining" about McAfee's _aggressive_ dogs which had a history of biting and attacking people in the neighborhood.

Yeah, you don't poison a dog. To be clear, they weren't poisoned fatally, they were made sick. Still not okay. McAfee put them down (debates on necessity ensued).

Was he found guilty? No. Because he immediately made a run for the border, crossed illegally into another country. He wasn't found guilty because Belize didn't try him in absentia, not because he faced justice.

A civil suit found him, like OJ, liable for the other guy's death.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by henvic »

No one deserves to be kidnapped and throw in a cell for the victimless crime of tax evasion.

RIP, McAfee.

In the 20th century: ~8 million were murdered in mundane crimes. ~175 million people were murdered by the state.

Democracy is just violence in disguise. Pure evil.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by FireBeyond »

mc32 wrote: post #71
gkoberger wrote: post #25

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I mean, he very likely killed his neighbor in 2012... so I feel like "colorful" undermines how much of a monster he's been for over a decade.

There were some very disturbing allegations against him --which is why I included his fall from grace and the good or bad. I would just add some skepticism to the charges only because the police down there can be corrupt and or inept and subject to bribery and so on. I don't know if there has been an independent international inquiry into the matter. Anyway, I think it's sad to see people when they throw away all the…

> I would just add some skepticism to the charges only because the police down there can be corrupt and or inept and subject to bribery and so on. I don't know if there has been an independent international inquiry into the matter.

A US federal judge found him culpable for a murder civilly.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by Aeolun »

mrtksn wrote: post #521
mrosett wrote: post #262

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The obvious point you're making is about a double standard -- rich people are unfairly given more slack than others. But an alternative framing amounts to evaluating a method by its results -- basically saying "I don't know why you're behaving that way, but for reasons I don't understand it seems to work for you." That obviously falls apart if you can cleanly separate their wealth/financial success from their behavio…

I was actually referring to the slack given to him for apparent murder and putting the police force on a payroll. “killing your neighbor, bribing the police and never serving a single day for it? What an eccentric person you are”

That could still be eccentric depending on the situation in which you ended up killing your neighbor?

E.g. he came at me with a fire axe. And I kicked him down the stairs.

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Post by dragonwriter »

Mirioron wrote: post #620
dontblink wrote: post #423

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Or they could only get too him in a Spanish prison and they ran out of time.

Wouldn't be unusual for the US. Gitmo is specifically not on US soil to avoid dealing with US laws.

> Gitmo is specifically not on US soil to avoid dealing with US laws.

“Camp Delta at Gitmo is used...” is more accurate here than “Gitmo is specifically not on US soil...”; Johnson v. Eisentrager (1950) was not a motivating factor in securing the lease at Guatanamo Bay (in 1903) but was a factor in siting the temporary (Camp X-Ray) and later permanent (Camp Delta) detention facilities for War on Terror detainees there.

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Post by FireBeyond »

cwkoss wrote: post #279
oh_sigh wrote: post #258

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Actually, John killed his own dogs after he believed they were poisoned by his neighbor. Were they really poisoned, or was that just one of his psychotic delusions(like his claim that Belizean officials were out to kill him but killed Faull by mistake)? We'll never know. But we do know that his dogs were allowed to run free in a giant pack and attacked at least 6 people (probably more, but they may be locals and not…

He claimed that he gifted laptops to the Belizean government pre-loaded with spyware and alleged to have found evidence that multiple top officials were engaged in drug and human trafficking. If true, would certainly be a motive for those officials.

> He claimed that he gifted laptops to the Belizean government pre-loaded with spyware and alleged to have found evidence that multiple top officials were engaged in drug and human trafficking.

So he was looking to take out his competitors? Because he boasted of having sold 25KG of psychotropics in the previous year, so let's not mistake him for some vigilante.

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Post by toolz »

gizdan wrote: post #557
to1y wrote: post #519

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Parent poster meant let's not make him look like a loon and hound him relentlessly because of it.

As use hugi said, that's exactly what he was, so why shouldn't we?

I'd bet my entire net worth you've never even met the guy you're so confident you know enough about to drag his name through the mud.
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